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    I can hear the screams from Cuda's house all the way over here...


    http://blogs.moneycentral.msn.com/sm...wing&GT1=33009

    If you've been drowning your economic sorrows in a pint of ale, that could get more expensive. Beer is being eyed for additional taxation in a number of states facing budget shortfalls.

    In Oregon, legislators have proposed raising the beer tax from the current $2.60 per barrel to $49.61, a jump of about 1,800%. Lawmakers say that amounts to 15 cents more per 12-ounce glass. The beer industry says the price jump would more likely be $1.50. The tax hasn't been raised in more than 30 years.

    Don't panic yet, you folks in microbrew paradise. An editorial in The Oregonian says, "Excuse our cynicism, but we've sat through this particular barroom discussion enough times to know that it is leading nowhere" (and also notes that state funding for alcohol and drug treatment has been severely cut).

    Here's what's going on in some other states:

    A proposal to more than triple the per-gallon tax on beer from 15 to 52 cents has passed its first test in an Idaho legislative committee. A wine tax increase did too, The Associated Press reports. (One barrel holds 31 gallons.)
    In New York, Gov. David Patterson has proposed to raise the state tax from 11 cents to 24 cents per gallon of beer, prompting speculation that Anheuser-Busch would close its Lysander brewery as a result, The Post-Standard of Syracuse said.
    A total of 24 states, including Massachusetts and Virginia, are considering higher alcohol taxes.
    All the news for beer drinkers isn't bad. (If you support a tax increase, you'll find plenty of ammunition at BeerSoaksAmerica.org.)

    In Wisconsin, Gov. Jim Doyle is proposing a 75-cent tax increase on cigarettes, on the heels of a $1 hike last year. But remember that Wisconsin is a beer-and-brat state. The beer tax hasn't gone up there in 40 years, The Post-Crescent reports, and that's not likely to change soon.
    Missouri beer drinkers also seem safe. Owen Morris writes in The Pitch that the Show-Me State's beer tax is low and likely to stay that way. Missouri is also the home of Anheuser-Busch. (Wyoming has the lowest beer tax, according to this Tax Foundation map.)
    The beer industry is lobbying for a reduction in the federal beer tax, calling it a sort of economic stimulus.
    In Connecticut, Georgia, Indiana, Texas, Alabama and Minnesota, lawmakers may drop blue laws that ban the sale of alcohol on Sunday. It's believed that will increase state revenue.
    Here are two strange items from The Associated Press: A Nebraska legislator says tourism could increase there if people could legally drink beer in state parks. Also, Utah is contemplating changing its unique liquor laws by dropping the club system in bars.

    Charlie Papazian, who truly is the king of beer -- he wrote "The Complete Joy of Home Brewing," among other accomplishments -- said at Examiner.com that a higher tax would raise the cost of beer by much higher than the tax's face value by the time you raise that glass or can to your lips.

    He added, "Will there be other proposals to raise taxes on beer in your state? Unfortunately, I fear yes."

    Want to see where your state ranks in beer consumption? Check out this Beer Institute .pdf file.
    Classic Southern defense: "But your Honor, he just NEEDED killin!

  • #2
    I don't doubt this one bit. I wonder what is next? Fast food? Chocolate? This is getting to be so ridiculous. :(

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    • #3
      While I enjoy a nice cold beer on occasion, I really don't drink very often. I find it repulsive to have to pay a huge tax on something that has been worked into America's favorite past time (not baseball), Outdoor Grilling.

      Throw on a few steaks, some 'dogs, and a burger or three, open a nice cold Bud Light, and enjoy the sunshine on your face. "No Taxation without Representation"...well, we know where this money is going...straight down the toilet of corporate downfall and government bailouts.

      I'd rather drink an ice cold beer on a Tuesday afternoon, instead of going to the bank to apply for a loan, how about you?
      "Reject the basic assumptions of civilization, especially the importance of material possessions." "The things you own end up owning you"-Tyler Durden

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Visinedrops View Post
        I'd rather drink an ice cold beer on a Tuesday afternoon, instead of going to the bank to apply for a loan, how about you?
        I'm not following. :o What do you mean?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Lostinoz View Post
          I'm not following. :o What do you mean?
          Our tax money is going toward banks in order for people to take out loans. I have more interest in an ice cold beer than I do in a loan. What I mean by my previous statement is: I don't want to have to pay a huge tax on my beer to support something I don't use anyway.
          "Reject the basic assumptions of civilization, especially the importance of material possessions." "The things you own end up owning you"-Tyler Durden

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Visinedrops View Post
            Our tax money is going toward banks in order for people to take out loans. I have more interest in an ice cold beer than I do in a loan. What I mean by my previous statement is: I don't want to have to pay a huge tax on my beer to support something I don't use anyway.
            Oh thank goodness! Your posts are some of my favorites to read! I am just too used to people making sarcastic comments from other boards and I was hoping you weren't being sarcastic and meaning that it is unpatriotic to NOT want to pay higher taxes. :D Thanks for clearing it up for me!! :D

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            • #7
              I have had the 'Privlige' to have lived in 2 socialist countrys.
              The first country was West Germany. Buy a car pay a tax, own a car pay a tax, buy tires, pay a tax. Own a home, pay a tax. Every year there after you are taxed on the # of rooms in the home. Closets in the home? pay a tax. Own a TV set? pay a yearly tax. Cars, clothes, children, pay a tax. AND pay tax for health care on the Muslims who moved to Germany to get jobs and then refussed to work after 12 months becuse the work site was not according to Sharia Law! PAY a Tax! (but it's a democracy becuse they elect the leaders who will tax them!) that was 35 years ago, it has not improved.
              The second and saddest country was Australia.
              OZ was a proud, young and brave country, they were not perfect but then who is?
              Before WW2 any Aussie was as good a man/woman as any Yank, maybe better, strike a fire from flint? take the burning ember and make a homestead? As they say in OZ "ben there, done that"
              Nobody ever did more for
              or victory, than OZ did, Australian soldiers, and even untrained civilians, marched off to war and blunted the IJE sweep across the Pacific in WW2, buying time for the US Pacific Fleet to to consolidate and break the IJN code and defeat them at Midway,. then Guadalcanal and ensure a very hard won victory against the Axis powers.
              Imagine that you were a civilian working as a laborour in New Guenie and then one day you are impressed into the Queen's Army to face the Imperial Japanese Army, an army that has been undefeated for 14 years. You were issued a rifle, marched-up into a hell of a tropical mountain rain forest, not fed, abandoned and yet stopped the "Nips". That's the sort of man OZ gave birth to.
              At the end of the war OZ was producing aircraft, radios, ships,trucks, tanks, guns of all sorts. Then the Socialists took power, promising wealth to the Labor Unions, Oz, who should have been the industrail powerhouse in the southern hemisphere has been a cripple ever sense. OZ is Chock-a-Block full of brilliant minds, scientists, engineers, skilled labor that can create neat stuff at the drop of a hat,, you name it, OZ has it. But they are all shackeled, like slaves because of PC, taxed BS!
              There is an entire underground economy of talented, law abiding PPL, who are forced to be illegale because they cannot pay the tax on thier 'small business', Trade and craftsmen, if they paid the tax would be impoverished, work in a blackmarket or face impoverishment.
              But the worst is that everyone has been incoulcated to expect SOMETHING from the goverment. They whine about taxes, then whine that THEY do not get thier fair share from the taxed PPL! \Class warfare.
              In it's way OZ is a better test bed nation than the US. There is an established undergound economy, This economy is limited, almost tribal because OZ is STILL a big empty place. The ecomy is, as all economies are, limited to dense population centers and TAXES/union dues will ALWAYS sap the streangth from even the most vibrant economies. AUSTRALIA should have been a shining light for Democracy but became a dim mrror for a fading empire and a Cause-de-guerre for Marxisim. The nation of Australia is one of the few shining moments of the Britsh Empire, if only because they deemed it worthless to exploite and left it for the PPL that might actually care for it.
              And now you know me.
              And now you know my love of Aussies and Kiwis, yes they hate each other, I am here to preserve that hate, that is my job
              Last edited by kenno; 02-21-2009, 02:17 AM.
              The road to serfdom is paved with free electric golf carts.

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              • #8
                Loshali,

                Sounds like a great time to take up homebrewing of beer and wine, to keep a stash away from the Jackbooted "Revinooers."

                :cool:
                "Apocalypse is by no means inevitable." --Jim Rice.

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                • #9
                  Too Right, Kenno! That was a bleedin' lovely tribute to the Aussies, Mate! I tip me Fosters oil-can in the memory of what they once were! Damn the Socialist pommy bass-turds who have hobbled that great Island/Continent/Nation!
                  "Apocalypse is by no means inevitable." --Jim Rice.

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