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    Well after watching FOX news, we need to take up a collection to rescue all the X colonists out of Texas. Mexico is on the brink of collapse, drug cartels are taking over, and 70+ Americans are missing along the border. Honestly, this is serious, the US would really have it's hands full if Mexico falls to the cartels.

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    Originally posted by David M. View Post
    Well after watching FOX news, we need to take up a collection to rescue all the X colonists out of Texas. Mexico is on the brink of collapse, drug cartels are taking over, and 70+ Americans are missing along the border. Honestly, this is serious, the US would really have it's hands full if Mexico falls to the cartels.
    I have been trying to explain what is going on down there since I have been on this board. It is not only the cartel's. They are the major players, but the Federalies are just as bad.

    If it falls, no worries here. It is hot and dry, and we will see them coming by their dust trails

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    • #3
      It would blow this country away, if they REALLY knew what goes on along the border. For one, the Mexican military has crossed into this country more than a few times. Last year it did make news when they were found in the USA, near the AZ/CA border. They were detained and sent back to Mexico. Nothing more. Now what about the half dozen times they have been seen at a truck stop in El Paso BUYING food and drinks? How about Crossing into Del Ri, TX? Patagonia, AZ? Douglas, AZ? The list goes on. You cant tell me our government is blind to it? Or are they? I always thought that when a foreign military crossed a border uninvited, it was an invasion. Guess Im wrong..
      "Lighthouses are more helpful than churches" Franklin

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      • #4
        Originally posted by voodoo View Post
        It would blow this country away, if they REALLY knew what goes on along the border. For one, the Mexican military has crossed into this country more than a few times. Last year it did make news when they were found in the USA, near the AZ/CA border. They were detained and sent back to Mexico. Nothing more. Now what about the half dozen times they have been seen at a truck stop in El Paso BUYING food and drinks? How about Crossing into Del Ri, TX? Patagonia, AZ? Douglas, AZ? The list goes on. You cant tell me our government is blind to it? Or are they? I always thought that when a foreign military crossed a border uninvited, it was an invasion. Guess Im wrong..
        Numerous reports of the Federalies providing escort service for coyotes running drugs/guns/OTM invaders into the US from Mexico. Was in Laredo a couple of years ago when they firebombed the US Consulate building over in Nuevo Laredo. My company had an Escalade stolen in Marfa. One of the regional Mexican governors is now driving it in Mexico.

        Hijackings along I-10 are frequent, and are violent. Trucks end up in Mexico.

        I have heard numerous, credible reports of Muslim training centers south of Matamoros.

        The Mojado's crossing the borders are the least of our worries. What else is crossing without getting intercepted?


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        • #5
          I have a million jumbled thoughts on this. Bare with me and I'll try to sort at least some of them out here. Unfortunately, my thoughts are mostly questions.

          So, is the reason this isn't the top story on the news every night (reported like any other war) because we couldn't handle it? Or, is it because they (our .gov) really don't know what to do about it? Are they more cautious because this is literally on our doorstep and seriously laying down the hammer would mean we are engaged in yet another simultaneous war? Or, do they have no intention of ever considering a military response to this national security risk? Actually declaring war on a neighbor would be HUGE on many levels not only in this region but internationally.

          The illegal alien issue is a hot topic for politicians. But, the issue they openly discuss hardy seems like the real issue. You have to wonder how Washington really sees the problem and what they consider to be the options. What I see is that we're building a neighborly fence rather than posturing and planning openly like they do in regard to the middle east. I'm not suggesting one is better than the other. I can't since I'm not privy to the intel. All I know is that I'm 'safely' tucked away in suburbia unable to see a fraction of the real picture. The only info 99.?% of America has is from the news media. We'll hear the usual rhetoric until it's no longer newsworthy or 'out of nowhere' we're declaring war with Mexico. The first option sounds unrealistic. But with Mexico being literally attached to us in so many ways, is it any more realistic to think we'd ever really get into it with them?
          The government cannot give to anyone anything that it does not first take from someone else.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Rustyshakelford View Post
            Numerous reports of the Federalies providing escort service for coyotes running drugs/guns/OTM invaders into the US from Mexico. Was in Laredo a couple of years ago when they firebombed the US Consulate building over in Nuevo Laredo. My company had an Escalade stolen in Marfa. One of the regional Mexican governors is now driving it in Mexico.

            Hijackings along I-10 are frequent, and are violent. Trucks end up in Mexico.

            I have heard numerous, credible reports of Muslim training centers south of Matamoros.

            The Mojado's crossing the borders are the least of our worries. What else is crossing without getting intercepted?


            Fear not, Rusty and I have it covered...we'll hold the bastards off!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Rustyshakelford View Post
              Numerous reports of the Federalies providing escort service for coyotes running drugs/guns/OTM invaders into the US from Mexico. Was in Laredo a couple of years ago when they firebombed the US Consulate building over in Nuevo Laredo. My company had an Escalade stolen in Marfa. One of the regional Mexican governors is now driving it in Mexico.

              Hijackings along I-10 are frequent, and are violent. Trucks end up in Mexico.

              I have heard numerous, credible reports of Muslim training centers south of Matamoros.

              The Mojado's crossing the borders are the least of our worries. What else is crossing without getting intercepted?



              How would you feel being reminded everyday that we have a turd world cess pool to the south of u, who dumps millions of undesireables into our country?

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              • #8
                I was amazed at the police presence in the desert when I was south of Fort Stockton. There were more police in the area than.....errr.....uhhh......anything else! Including homes, cows, trees, etc. A bunch of them were staying in the same motel as I was and I talked with one at the continental breakfast. He indicated that they stayed in the area for a month at a time and then rotated back to civilization. I've never seen that many cops in one area before. Was good to see that they were out in force.
                Last edited by lazer128; 02-08-2009, 12:54 PM.
                JUST CURIOUS? PRUNES ARE DEHYDRATED PLUMS. SO WHERE DOES PRUNE JUICE COME FROM?

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                • #9
                  I think the biggest obstacle in the way of really dealing with the IA and border problem is Political Correctness.....The powers that be are afraid of being labeled racist, should they actually decide to deal effectively with the issue. If we were having the same problem form our northern border (Canada being populated with a majority of caucasian citizens), it would be much easier for our .gov to deal with without fear of reprisals from the so-call "social justice" groups.

                  The reality of the matter is that nobody (with a brain or a heart) really has a problem with Latinos coming here, integrating w/ our society, and grabbig up a piece of the American pie....Those of us who intelligently divide the scenario just have a problem with thing like hyphenated Americanism (forcing another culture on the American people) rather then true integration.....the ability to have a baby here and suddenly being eligible to receive my tax dollar....allowing anyone from eitheer border to enter and leav the country without so much as a cursory inspection....the apparent impotency of our enforcement of immigrant laws and requirements.

                  Yes, we are all descendants of immigrants, some illegal....but honestly....why did we come here? To recreate what we left? Who wants to come to America to turn it into another 3rd-world cesspool? If Mexico and Canada, and every other country in the world have such great economic opportunities and social equality and prosperity, why not stay there, rather than trying so hard to come here and turn our country into your's?......

                  I think I'm rambling now, but I hope you guys know where I stand, at least....I'm nor better than anyone...same color, race, origin or different.....I just know that I'm blessed to be an American, and I'd like to see my blessing protected from corruption....even if it means I have to harden my heart in some instances...
                  "I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson

                  "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." -Frederic Bastiat

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                  • #10
                    What a coincidence, a video was sent to me by my father this morning, and people just happen to be talking about it already. Check it out HERE.
                    "Reject the basic assumptions of civilization, especially the importance of material possessions." "The things you own end up owning you"-Tyler Durden

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                    • #11
                      true, and the debt brought with the stimulus package should speed us down the road.

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                      • #12
                        More questions.....

                        How do we really deal with the issue when so many of theirs sustain their lives here? And you have to admit, we've welcomed them by hiring them to do a lot of our manual labor and passing laws that protect them, pay them, provide healthcare and an education. We as a nation did it to ourselves. How do we undo that? At what point do the masses understand and address the ramifications of those decisions?

                        This is where things get blurry for me, though. We aren't just talking about how so many aliens are here legally or otherwise. We're talking about the all-out war that's going on and what can be done about that. The unaware aren't likely to address the real (albiet smaller in numbers) issue because they only know of the obvious one. And, I'm not sure which is the bigger problem at this point. I have a feeling that as the rhetoric flies about "illegal aliens," the war will escalate. And this is where my knowledge runs out.
                        The government cannot give to anyone anything that it does not first take from someone else.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Oddball View Post
                          More questions.....

                          How do we really deal with the issue when so many of theirs sustain their lives here? And you have to admit, we've welcomed them by hiring them to do a lot of our manual labor and passing laws that protect them, pay them, provide healthcare and an education. We as a nation did it to ourselves. How do we undo that? At what point do the masses understand and address the ramifications of those decisions?

                          This is where things get blurry for me, though. We aren't just talking about how so many aliens are here legally or otherwise. We're talking about the all-out war that's going on and what can be done about that. The unaware aren't likely to address the real (albiet smaller in numbers) issue because they only know of the obvious one. And, I'm not sure which is the bigger problem at this point. I have a feeling that as the rhetoric flies about "illegal aliens," the war will escalate. And this is where my knowledge runs out.
                          Good points....honestly, for me, the only problem is entitlements.....if folks wanna come here and better their family's situation, so be it...I'd sure as hell do it.....but don't take MY tax dollar and give it to someone who has no ligitimate reason for receiving it, whether it be an IA, a junkie, a welfare addict, etc. The IA issue really is just a small, but in-your-face part of the entire picture of fiscal irresponsibility and forcible transfer of wealth, which happens to also include a major culture shift, one that is unwelcomed by the majority of the American working class....
                          "I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson

                          "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." -Frederic Bastiat

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                          • #14
                            The Last white hope... is a good documentary.
                            Mainly they covered the Iran contra conflict, and how in that time the CIA was pumping in millions of dollars worth of Cocaine into the U.S. It named several people, including Clintons Drug Czar. It then went on to show how Ricky Ross was buying his imported drugs from people linked into the CIA. Of course the show lost my interest when they started interviewing people whose first statement out of their mouth was "The gobment shipped in the crack for the destruction of the blacks."

                            Obviusly their is proof that the U.S. government has shipped in Cocaine. Ricky Ross, when he was in his day, that would take that nose candy which he got directly from the guys importing it from South America, and turn it right into crack cocaine. Thus producing more for cheaper, and HE was the one who decided to sell it on HIS block..... The guy actually stated in the documentary. "We would have days where we would sell over a million without breaking a sweat."
                            All that is necessary for the triumph of evil....

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                            • #15
                              For roughly 2 years, on the corner of two busy streets, sat a Mexican restaurant. The sign was not built out of plastic and lights, but painted on the face of the building. This is common practice, I've found, after researching such places.

                              Most recently, a restaurant named "La Palapa" ceased to be, and was changed to a different name. It's still a mexican restaurant, but the ownership and title have been changed.

                              A palapa is an open-sided dwelling with a thatched roof made of dried palm leaves, similar to picnic shelters in parks. If it starts to rain, you would run to these dwellings to take "COVER" from the storm. If my grammar is correct, then naming a business "La Palapa" would translate into "The Cover".

                              I'm unsure if my information is correct, but this is how I understand it:
                              Immigrants have the ability to live in this country, tax free, and apply for a government grant to start a business. This business can operate tax free for 2 years while the immigrant prepares for citizenship. If, however, they choose not to stay in America, they can sell the business and take their earnings home with them. The typical sale of the business is to a family member who also applies for a grant.

                              Again, I'm unsure if my information is correct, I received it from an Indian (from India, not native american) who owned and operated a mini-mart Texaco in Georgia with his family. He informed me he had recently "sold" the business to his brother.
                              "Reject the basic assumptions of civilization, especially the importance of material possessions." "The things you own end up owning you"-Tyler Durden

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