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  • voodoo
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    Was pokin around, and stumbled on this; http://www.pioneerliving.net/statesoverienty.htm

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  • Big_Saw
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    They don't have the balls to actually amend their State constitution with these lines....resolutions are just political grandstanding....:(

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  • herbalpagan
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    I still haven't heard anything about this on major news. This means that it isn't being taken seriously. I do not think that when push comes to shove, anything will be done about it either. People are to content to let the government handle things if things go wrong. (is that an oxymoron?:p)
    When you think about it: states rely on Federal funding for things from roads to education. Without that funding it would fall completely to the people to fund those things. Resulting decline in roads has a trickle down affect from stores not getting the traffic to truckers not coming through. Education has the same trickle down affect and could result in other states not recognizing the education given in those states and refusing entry into colleges. States are so entwined with the Feds now a days that I doubt they can be seperated. Another issue would be the emergency management systems...if there was a disaster, the state involved may not be able to get funding for help. I just don't think that people would go for it in the end.
    I would and many of you might, but the majority of people won't want the bother.
    Also, these are "resolutions", not laws and they basically don't mean much in the end. I would hope that the Feds would pay attention, but then, it's the Feds and they don't pay attention to anything real.

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  • voodoo
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    Ugh...North Jersey.... I pity you. I got out of that hellhole 15 years ago and never been back!

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  • TheUnboundOne
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    Fellow Survivalists,

    I just want to know how to get to New Hampshire from North Carolina via road or sea, WITHOUT going through the Death Star D.C., Taxachusetts, Gangland New Jersey, or Babylon New York. I don't like going anyplace where I can't shoot back.

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  • takeumdown
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    I think i'm moving!!!!!

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  • takeumdown
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    I think I'm moving !!! with the way it's going here in north NJ .

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  • Big_Saw
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    Originally posted by OzarkPyro View Post
    The reason may very well be because of the idea of one man, Jason Sorens. I was an initial member of the FSP, but could not commit or move to NH due to business reasons and licensing, apparently I should have stayed up with them. I loved Jason’s great idea when the FSP was first started.

    One of the FSP members was removed from an NRA convention a few years ago for handing out FSP information. As a letter generator, at the time, for the NRAILA, I wrote THEM ONE demanding and answer to this infringement on individual freedoms. I wish I still had the attorney-ese letter that was eventually sent back, but I’ve lost it in other paperwork.

    Over the last few years I’ve lost track of what was going on with the FSP, I’ve not even read the emails that I keep getting almost daily. If they’ve gotten this far… it’s time for me, and a lot of US to check further into this, and rethink the whole moving idea. Guess I screwed up by thinking it was more of a dream, it looks like they are making it happen. HUMMMM?

    HEY BIG-SAW MAN --- Weren’t we just talking about this exact same thing last night? Here’s your sign! But only one state, not many. It’s a start.

    BUTTTT!!! What is their exact direction, values, and beliefs? I "may" be able to tolorate no drug laws for other freedoms, but have a serious problem with open borders.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_State_Project

    http://www.freestateproject.org/
    If they were willing to just get on with it and stop being so PC about the whole thing, I'd move there in a heartbeat....but Dave Ridley and his band of gun-toting buddies are battling against a tide of tea-totalers who say one thing, and do another.

    The only thing that will make the FreeState project a success will be a massive, coordinated resistance, back by support from other, out-of-pocket patriots around the country.

    NH could be ground zero, but I just don't see the resolve it's gonna take there....not yet....plus, the strategic placement of it is iffy, at best. Close to DC equals intimacy with the head of the snake, but also the danger of being in striking range.

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  • OzarkPyro
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    Free state project

    The reason may very well be because of the idea of one man, Jason Sorens. I was an initial member of the FSP, but could not commit or move to NH due to business reasons and licensing, apparently I should have stayed up with them. I loved Jason’s great idea when the FSP was first started.

    One of the FSP members was removed from an NRA convention a few years ago for handing out FSP information. As a letter generator, at the time, for the NRAILA, I wrote THEM ONE demanding and answer to this infringement on individual freedoms. I wish I still had the attorney-ese letter that was eventually sent back, but I’ve lost it in other paperwork.

    Over the last few years I’ve lost track of what was going on with the FSP, I’ve not even read the emails that I keep getting almost daily. If they’ve gotten this far… it’s time for me, and a lot of US to check further into this, and rethink the whole moving idea. Guess I screwed up by thinking it was more of a dream, it looks like they are making it happen. HUMMMM?

    HEY BIG-SAW MAN --- Weren’t we just talking about this exact same thing last night? Here’s your sign! But only one state, not many. It’s a start.

    BUTTTT!!! What is their exact direction, values, and beliefs? I "may" be able to tolorate no drug laws for other freedoms, but have a serious problem with open borders.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_State_Project

    http://www.freestateproject.org/

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  • herbalpagan
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    I'm following a similar topic on another forum that stated that 25-40 of the states are planning to make these statements. I'm hoping that this takes root and gets more notice in the major news.
    The cost for federal mandates is a terrible burden on the states. Someone posted that in Washington, just to read and follow up on the federal mandates requires an additional 6000 additional state employees, with no compensation coming for that extra work. The states are sick of it! I worked in the school system, and in education alone, the mandates are raising taxes for people sometimes double.:mad:

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  • OneBadPig
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    I think i posted this link elsewhere but http://middleburyinstitute.org is all about state secession movements.

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  • Big_Saw
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    Originally posted by Ticklish Turtle View Post
    So, basically everything the Bush/Cheney Era snuck through. Good for NH! Why did they wait so long, though?

    The John Warner Defense Appropriation Act pretty much encompasses all of these acts that constitute nullification of the Constitution.

    http://www.libertyforlife.com/law/po..._destroyed.htm
    http://www.towardfreedom.com/home/content/view/911/
    Hi...TT howzaboot a post in the intro forum board, so we can learn more about you, eh?

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  • Ticklish Turtle
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    So, basically everything the Bush/Cheney Era snuck through. Good for NH! Why did they wait so long, though?

    The John Warner Defense Appropriation Act pretty much encompasses all of these acts that constitute nullification of the Constitution.

    http://www.libertyforlife.com/law/po..._destroyed.htm
    http://www.towardfreedom.com/home/content/view/911/

    Originally posted by Brosia View Post
    The following is a joint resolution of the New Hampshire House and Senate, and presented to Obama, all members of the US Congress and
    the presiding officers of all state legislatures.


    http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/legi...9/HCR0006.html


    excerpts:
    That any Act by the Congress of the United States, Executive Order of the President of the United States of America or Judicial Order by the Judicatories of the United States of America which assumes a power not delegated to the government of United States of America by the Constitution for the United States of America and which serves to diminish the liberty of the any of the several States or their citizens shall constitute a nullification of the Constitution for the United States of America by the government of the United States of America. Acts which would cause such a nullification include, but are not limited to:



    I. Establishing martial law or a state of emergency within one of the States comprising the United States of America without the consent of the legislature of that State.

    II. Requiring involuntary servitude, or governmental service other than a draft during a declared war, or pursuant to, or as an alternative to, incarceration after due process of law.

    III. Requiring involuntary servitude or governmental service of persons under the age of 18 other than pursuant to, or as an alternative to, incarceration after due process of law.

    IV. Surrendering any power delegated or not delegated to any corporation or foreign government.

    V. Any act regarding religion; further limitations on freedom of political speech; or further limitations on freedom of the press.

    VI. Further infringements on the right to keep and bear arms including prohibitions of type or quantity of arms or ammunition; and

    That should any such act of Congress become law or Executive Order or Judicial Order be put into force, all powers previously delegated to the United States of America by the Constitution for the United States shall revert to the several States individually. Any future government of the United States of America shall require ratification of three quarters of the States seeking to form a government of the United States of America and shall not be binding upon any State not seeking to form such a government;

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  • hammer502
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    i hope they get the hint in DC,but i doubt it.they are so out of touch with what is right and wrong it's a dang shame.anyone who votes for the stimulus bill should be impeached or at the least voted out at the next chance.

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  • Visinedrops
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    All I can do is smile and laugh. New Hampshire as Cartman on South Park, "Screw you guys, I'm going home."

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