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  • Obama reaches out to Muslims

    He basically says, 'we are the not your enemy'. Calls on his 'relatives'...

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28869185
    Classic Southern defense: "But your Honor, he just NEEDED killin!

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    Problem is that this guy is an idealist.....and the radical Muslims are fanatics.....idealists get killed by fanatics.....he needs to become a realist and fight the war to win, rather than trying to sooth the savage beast. Radical Muslims are not interested in compromise....their ideology has no room for it....they are to kill or convert infidels and impose the "will of Allah" on the world, so that their prophet can return to them....no negotiation....we have to destroy them, or be destroyed by them....why can't this fruitcake just admit to the truth.,....
    "I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson

    "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." -Frederic Bastiat

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Big_Saw View Post
      they are to kill or convert infidels and impose the "will of Allah" on the world, so that their prophet can return to them....no negotiation....we have to destroy them, or be destroyed by them....why can't this fruitcake just admit to the truth.,....
      Because he's a frickin Muslim, thats why...
      Classic Southern defense: "But your Honor, he just NEEDED killin!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Loshali View Post
        Because he's a frickin Muslim, thats why...
        I don't think he's a Muslim....he's definitely a sympathizer, but I highly doubt he's a practicer...
        "I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson

        "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." -Frederic Bastiat

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        • #5
          he's half&half!!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Big_Saw View Post
            I don't think he's a Muslim....he's definitely a sympathizer, but I highly doubt he's a practicer...
            I grew up and spent many years of my life in a Baptist church. Although I dont call my self a 'Baptist', its hard to fall away from these core values I was taught for years and years... I would think the muslim traditions, which are pounded into the young, including Obama, wouldn't fall far from him, either. I agree he's definitely a sympathizer and is very well aware of their tactics and stances.

            (not a religious debate, just using the Baptist example).
            Last edited by Loshali; 01-27-2009, 12:53 PM.
            Classic Southern defense: "But your Honor, he just NEEDED killin!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Loshali View Post
              I grew up and spent many years of my life in a Baptist church. Although I dont call my self a 'Baptist', its hard to fall away from these core values I was taught for years and years... I would think the muslim traditions, which are pounded into the young, including Obama, would fall far from him, either. I agree he's definitely a sympathizer and is very well aware of their tactics and stances.

              (not a religious debate, just using the Baptist example).
              I completely concur with your analogy.....
              "I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson

              "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." -Frederic Bastiat

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              • #8
                He converted to Christianity when he began to contemplate a political career. His formidable years growing up were spent in a fundamentalist Muslim school in Jakarta! He was raised a Muslim!
                John 3:16 Joshua 24:15

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Big_Saw View Post
                  Problem is that this guy is an idealist.....and the radical Muslims are fanatics.....idealists get killed by fanatics.....he needs to become a realist and fight the war to win, rather than trying to sooth the savage beast. Radical Muslims are not interested in compromise....their ideology has no room for it....they are to kill or convert infidels and impose the "will of Allah" on the world, so that their prophet can return to them....no negotiation....we have to destroy them, or be destroyed by them....why can't this fruitcake just admit to the truth.,....
                  AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                  • #10
                    If you want a real eye opener, pick up a english version of the Koran....I've read quite a bit of it. I am well grounded in my beliefs and I would not recommend it to the uninformed.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by David M. View Post
                      If you want a real eye opener, pick up a english version of the Koran....I've read quite a bit of it. I am well grounded in my beliefs and I would not recommend it to the uninformed.
                      Have it...read it twice cover to cover....did my bachelor thesis on it......scary book to be sure...
                      "I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson

                      "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." -Frederic Bastiat

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                      • #12
                        In Obamas newest book it clearly states (If the political winds were to shift in a nasty direction he will stand by the muslim religion) I thought it was in God we trust? God? who?........................:confused:
                        proper preparedness prevents poor performance

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ridgid1 View Post
                          In Obamas newest book it clearly states (If the political winds were to shift in a nasty direction he will stand by the muslim religion) I thought it was in God we trust? God? who?........................:confused:

                          He is trusting in God.. it just happens to be the wrong one...
                          Last edited by Rustyshakelford; 01-27-2009, 10:15 PM.
                          Classic Southern defense: "But your Honor, he just NEEDED killin!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Loshali View Post
                            He is trusting in God.. it just happens to be the wrong one...

                            We lived through Carter, Clinton and 2 Bushes. We will survive as a nation. It might be tough, but we will survive.

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                            • #15
                              Truth

                              Originally posted by David M. View Post
                              If you want a real eye opener, pick up a english version of the Koran....I've read quite a bit of it. I am well grounded in my beliefs and I would not recommend it to the uninformed.
                              I spent several years in the muslim world. Have also read the Koran out of courisity.
                              You will never convince me we can live in peace with them. They are taught it is ok and right to kill all non belivers.

                              There is no tolerance with them.
                              You can't get here from there. ;)

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