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  • Big_Saw
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    Originally posted by Visinedrops View Post
    I was gonna vote for Ben Franklin, considering he's on the $100, but was never a president.

    It doesn't matter what if what who why that because or stupid...if you can convince a large number of people you are right for the job, you will be, and great public speakers always get nominated into power...Hitler did.
    Yes....now we're on the same page.....there is no doubt that he is an excellent speaker, with amazing charisma, and a deft political mind.....that being said....I still hope he gets abducted by martians, along with the entire beltway club....:rolleyes:

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  • David M.
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    As far as I'm concerned, you're either American, or something else. I only hope the best for him, ultimately, he'll make or break his place in history. My fear is some nut job attempting to take his life or threaten his kids, thus putting us in a race war. I did not vote for the man, but he's our President like it or not. Now we have to watch and see what happens next.

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  • Visinedrops
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    I was gonna vote for Ben Franklin, considering he's on the $100, but was never a president.

    It doesn't matter what if what who why that because or stupid...if you can convince a large number of people you are right for the job, you will be, and great public speakers always get nominated into power...Hitler did.

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  • snal
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    Originally posted by TLM View Post
    Bill Clinton was the first black President. :)

    Would Barak have been elected, if Caucasian was the dominant gene?
    In other words, if he had the exact same Mom and Dad and same life
    except he looked like Gene Wilder, kinky hair but very white looking and acting.

    Do you think he would be President today, even if he had the exact same qualifications?
    No!...Oprah wouldn't have given him the time of day.
    It amazed me that before the election...most of his supporters tried to make it clear that race had nothing to do with it...and as soon as he won...."He's our first "black" president!....yippie!" What tha hell happened to race having nothing to do with it?
    His race means absolutely nothing to me, but you'll never convince me that being "african american" didn't put him in the white house.

    Edited to include my belief that Hillary would have won.
    Last edited by snal; 01-20-2009, 07:45 PM.

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  • Diesel
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    I don't know any of the answers but let's tread lightly here folks, if you have any questions read the rules of this forum

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  • Big_Saw
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    Originally posted by cudalyon View Post
    So if Obama was white, he would still be President? Evn though it is clearly recorded that record number of black voters showed up at the polls to vote for Obama. I am sure skin color had nothing to do with it. I think Obama has a lot of great Ideas, and I hope that he is successful with most of his plans, but that has nothing to do with this thread. We now have a president who is half black, and half white who has been refered to as the "Savior of his people". My point is who is his people? Remember he his half and half.
    So was Clinton...he's irish and german descent....nobody ever brought that up....

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  • cudalyon
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    Originally posted by Big_Saw View Post
    You are both wrong, this guy wasn't elected based on skin color, and he was one of the most popular pezzes ever....like it or not.



    Politics, people, that's what gets you elected....telling people what they want to hear, and making it sound better than the other guy...
    So if Obama was white, he would still be President? Evn though it is clearly recorded that record number of black voters showed up at the polls to vote for Obama. I am sure skin color had nothing to do with it. I think Obama has a lot of great Ideas, and I hope that he is successful with most of his plans, but that has nothing to do with this thread. We now have a president who is half black, and half white who has been refered to as the "Savior of his people". My point is who is his people? Remember he his half and half.

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  • Big_Saw
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    Originally posted by TLM View Post
    I think my question was valid.
    I'm not a racist, there's nothing for me to "get over" right now because he hasn't enacted any laws yet.

    I suspect he wouldn't have been readily accepted by many of his voters
    if he didn't look a certain way.
    He sure didn't win on his qualifications, which were minimal.

    Peace
    TLM
    You are both wrong, this guy wasn't elected based on skin color, and he was one of the most popular pezzes ever....like it or not.



    Politics, people, that's what gets you elected....telling people what they want to hear, and making it sound better than the other guy...

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  • TLM
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    Originally posted by Big_Saw View Post
    My comment was intended to steer the discussion AWAY from the matter of skin color....get over it, people....question his politics, not his hue...
    I think my question was valid.
    I'm not a racist, there's nothing for me to "get over" right now because he hasn't enacted any laws yet.

    I suspect he wouldn't have been readily accepted by many of his voters
    if he didn't look a certain way.
    He sure didn't win on his qualifications, which were minimal.

    Peace
    TLM

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  • cudalyon
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    Originally posted by Big_Saw View Post
    My comment was intended to steer the discussion AWAY from the matter of skin color....get over it, people....question his politics, not his hue...
    So what if we question the reason why we are questioning his Politics?
    Is his hue not the reason he is President now? If it was not for his hue, he would not be in the political spotlight for us all to question or discuss!

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  • Big_Saw
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    Originally posted by TLM View Post
    Bill Clinton was the first black President. :)

    Would Barak have been elected, if Caucasian was the dominant gene?
    In other words, if he had the exact same Mom and Dad and same life
    except he looked like Gene Wilder, kinky hair but very white looking and acting.

    Do you think he would be President today, even if he had the exact same qualifications?
    My comment was intended to steer the discussion AWAY from the matter of skin color....get over it, people....question his politics, not his hue...

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  • TLM
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    Bill Clinton was the first black President. :)

    Would Barak have been elected, if Caucasian was the dominant gene?
    In other words, if he had the exact same Mom and Dad and same life
    except he looked like Gene Wilder, kinky hair but very white looking and acting.

    Do you think he would be President today, even if he had the exact same qualifications?

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  • Diesel
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    that's a VERY interesting point, you must be an american to be president.

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  • Big_Saw
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    There's no such thing as an "african-american" president, or any other hyphenization thereof....you're either american, or something else, regardless of your skin color...

    'nuff said...

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  • cudalyon
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    I almost feel bad for Obama. I have never seen anyone set up so bad for failure. (Granted he did most of it himself) Too many people are like this lady...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZjcFp60DJc

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