Hi from Phoenix!

[Muckraker69]

Just getting a bit more interested in all things survival.
Making plans for "bugging out" if the time should come.
Trying to keep aware of the threats that may cause that scenario whether by terrorists, economics, natural disaster (like Katrina) or political. (don't get me started)
Trying to look into food & water storage.
And then ofcourse, the guns & ammo to protect the family from the crazed idiots that didn't plan. Only have 3 hand guns and one is a collector piece never fired.

Known elsewhere as Funner Hummer

[Diesel]

Welcome to the site!! Please feel free to reply to anything, contribute anything propose ideas, concepts etc as well as offer education, resources etc.. but most of all we shuld really concentrate on starting to establish this as a network and brotherhood.

Welcome aboard

[kaya_kismet]

Hiya! Lived in Phoenix for a couple of years myself. I found it really tough to be sustainably self-sufficient. THat's hard land to work, and there are only so many recipes for cacti. :-) If you ever come to the East Side, we can compare notes! I think water storage is tough there too, as the heat makes plastic seepage happen faster. Gotta replace the H2O every 6 months instead of every year.

Bye!

[Diesel]

that is true about water seepage, but with the right containers you should see none.

Milk jugs are by FAR the worst, DO NOT USE THEM.

If you wante cheap/free water storage try soda bottles they are made to handle and hold pressure without leaking.

[Muckraker69]

that is true about water seepage, but with the right containers you should see none.

Milk jugs are by FAR the worst, DO NOT USE THEM.

If you want cheap/free water storage try soda bottles they are made to handle and hold pressure without leaking.

Good tip ML about the soda bottles.
And welcome to the group, kaya_kismet. You are right about it being a tuff place to work (and live), both economically and environmentally.

[Dorobuta]

Hello from Chandler!

[RICHFL]

I was visiting a family member there last year, has not been there since 1974. It has changed so much! Looking like LA but no sea shore (yet).

your biggest problem is sourced water you need 3 independent sources of water. Remember you need 1-3 gallons per day (seasons) count!!!!

WElcome, read a lot, then start giving your opinion based on your experiences. Ask questions us old timers do not have. All the answers

[Garand]

Love Phoenix, especially Ben Avery Range. My wife and I shot the SASS US National Cowboy Action Championships (Winter Range) there 4 years in a row. Can't ask for a nicer shooting facility.