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  • bcauz3y
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    Originally posted by Echo2 View Post
    Watch that OPSEC....folks will remember that you told them to prepare....and think..."oh....they must have supplies..."
    Well said.

    Oddly enough, I have taken the opposite approach to OPSEC. I have selectively invited about 12 families to come here.

    I have realized that just me and my family will be unable to to fully operate in a true TEOTWAWKI scenario.

    I've offered them the land and opportunity to build a small house and take on responsibilities.

    It's a gamble, but I'm willing to take it.

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  • Echo2
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    Originally posted by survivalcookie View Post
    Thats why I love what I do...I have met so many in the last few weeks and had conversations that I would have never had about getting prepared...it has almost become a misson for me.
    Watch that OPSEC....folks will remember that you told them to prepare....and think..."oh....they must have supplies..."

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  • survivalcookie
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    Thats why I love what I do...I have met so many in the last few weeks and had conversations that I would have never had about getting prepared...it has almost become a misson for me.

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  • survivalcookie
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    Thats why when you see things going south go home and stay there...be ready...a sick comparison is that it is like Christmas...you know it is comming...some start shopping very earley and have everything in place weeks before the big day...some you hear a few days before, saying they are not ready they have no money and have bought nothing...some are out on Christmas eve looking for presents in messed up isles where all the good stuff is gone. And then we will have what looks to be a black friday sale with $10.00 TV's, Laptops, and Xboxs.

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  • survivalcookie
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    Yep, I have watch that and it seems so close to what could be our reality one day.

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  • prkchp76
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    Nope three mres for a case of 30/06 yes sir right away

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  • bcauz3y
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    Originally posted by CountryGuy View Post
    That's gonna mean I need a lot more ammo...
    haha! Yea potentially.

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  • CountryGuy
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    Originally posted by bcauz3y View Post
    I view that as 99% of the population being potential enemies.
    That's gonna mean I need a lot more ammo...

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  • Echo2
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    Originally posted by bcauz3y View Post
    I view that as 99% of the population being potential enemies.
    yup.....average person is about 9 meals away from going nuts.....

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  • bcauz3y
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    Originally posted by Echo2 View Post
    Look at it this way....odds are...if you read this post....and have 2 weeks worth of food in your home....you are very elite....there are less than 1% of us.

    It's the other 99% that scares the crap outta me...
    I view that as 99% of the population being potential enemies.

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  • Echo2
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    Look at it this way....odds are...if you read this post....and have 2 weeks worth of food in your home....you are very elite....there are less than 1% of us.

    It's the other 99% that scares the crap outta me...

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  • CountryGuy
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    TennOutdoors - I should have clarified, I didn't just mean the govt dependents aren't prepared, but as you said people in general are not prepared for anything. You also make a great point about the short memories people have after something happens. I'd bet many are even shorter than the year you mention.

    Great point on the herded masses not thinking. Amazing how that woman must have never even thought how she could prepare her rice and noodles. So many just can't fathom the idea of turning on the tap or light switch and nothing happening.


    Monet861 - I used to live north of Chicago up by Gurnee; I don't envy your location. Not sure which direction you are out of town but I think worst to be towards the south side. With Chicago & Cook Cty being such an anti-gun strong hold you know the only people with guns will be the thugs looking to rob and loot.

    Have you had a conversation with any of those family members or with any of your neighbors on what might happen in an emergency? Might be a good way to bring it to light in the wake of the recent storms. Don't necessarily have to go over and say hey, "what's your plans for an economical collapse or a SHTF situation". Maybe it's just a "hey have you guys thought about trying to prepare for an emergency like a tornado" etc... Be a good thing to feel out which neighbors will be a help to bring into the fold and which might be a hindrance.

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  • Oscar Wilde
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    Originally posted by bcauz3y View Post
    How so? You mean, with the dollar value?
    Just one of multiple facets .... much of our manufacturing began leaving the country decades ago under the guise of balanced trade .... flood of immigrants into the nation burdening our social infrastructure as well as competing for jobs .... "terrorist" events which have resulted in gov. treading on our rights as proclaimed in our Constitution. Military units (NORTHCOM) poised to engage the populace .... government operating cost by far exceed funds generated by taxes; been borrowing from other nations to the tune of multi-trillions $$$ .... our sons and daughters, brothers and sisters serving in multiple theatres throughout the globe .... wanna fly the friendly skies and watch your wife and children be fondled by scumbags? We are now living in a police state. Many other events occurring that aren't so obvious .... it's as though TPTB are playing three dimensional chess against us .... they with a full complement of pieces against our solitary king.

    I don't really know how to describe what it looks like .... I just know that I'm seeing it.

    O.W.
    Last edited by Oscar Wilde; 05-04-2011, 02:33 AM.

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  • monet861
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    I'm about 20 miles out of Chicago and I hope that my neighbors will band together to help defend our area. I have always planned on bugging in with hopes that the local family (about 15) would come to us knowing that I am that crazy gun guy. Of course they would have to bring whatever supplies they had too. But who knows how things could go down....

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  • TennOutdoors
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    Originally posted by CountryGuy View Post
    I kind of agree with the scenario bcauz3y laid out. The cities will be a mess and like New Orleans the gangs which already have a sort of paramilitary structure will rise to the top of the S%$* pile as things collapse. The zero liability voter types will freak when they realize that the hind tit has been pulled from their mouth. No more free house, food, or money. I feel bad for anyone within 70 miles of a major city. As time passes it's inevitable that some of this blight will make it out at least that far; like rats from a sinking ship.

    I honestly think that that might be some of the reason that over the last 10 to 15 years many rural areas have seen their states move welfare types out of the big cities and into their areas as the government "spreads the wealth" so to speak. Not really any bastion left without gov't freeloader types having been imported. Though these few will be easier to deal with in their smaller numbers than the massive crowds in those city slums and projects. Just think of NYC, Philly, DC, Chicago, Houston, Atlanta, LA etc... as they empty out... It will really get interesting depending on the time of year and weather to be dealt with also. I mean look at how Philly, NYC & D.C. came to a halt last winter and this winter with snow storms or the fact that the city didn't plow. The majority of the masses have no common sense on how to even get around or survive if someone doesn't "do" for them. Imagine when the heat, water, sewer & electricity goes out. I wonder how many of them even have a flashlight or food & water that could last them more than 2 or 3 days.
    I dont think it matters if they are on welfare or not, in cities or rural. alot of people dont bother to have more than a few days worth of food in their homes, because its so easy to get in a car and get more. and what ever lessons they might have learned from a previous disaster fades after a year and its back to the old ways.

    when it was announced that Rita might hit Houston. ( at the time I lived north of Houston) almost every store in seventy miles was out of water by the end of the day. I had run into town on Errand and was walking the aisles of a Kroger watching paniced people shoving stuff in their carts. and all of them talking about how there was no water. LOL

    I watched a woman adding another ten pound bag of rice to her cart that was already loaded with three other bags and several cases of ramen talking to another woman about how there was no water. I said loudly to my friend " funny how theres no water and every one is grabbing things that require water to prepare" ended up standing there telling that woman and every one else that listened to go across the street to Wally world buy up the large fifty gallon trash cans, take them home where the water was still running and fill them up.

    lesson... most people dont even think. thank god so many evacuated, or there would have been alot of deaths from stupidity.

    oh okay one more thing. sorry to make it so long.

    the day before the Hurricane hit, I drove down into Houston. well the outskirts. Eeriest drive of my life, nothing, no one. roads empty. trash blowing across the road. like a horror movie. kept waiting to see zombies spilling out of the buildings with their bibs on and ketchup in their hands.

    a Friend of mine is a paramedic and they took some Video footage of Downtown Houston at Night. just eerie as all get out to see a major city empty like that.

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