if the S truly does HTF.... How do you see it going down?

[bcauz3y]

I know you have all thought about it at some point, but in what series do you see events happening?

[PT945]

MHO is.. economic collapse, a dictatorship style government, and being sold out to the highest bidder. Just my thoughts.


Thanks for listing and I will now put my tinfoil hat back on and read the others thoughts.

Seriously I think our shtf will be something along those lines.

[bcauz3y]

MHO is.. economic collapse, a dictatorship style government, and being sold out to the highest bidder. Just my thoughts.


Thanks for listing and I will now put my tinfoil hat back on and read the others thoughts.

Seriously I think our shtf will be something along those lines.

I'm thinking more along the lines of what happens after.

Something like this:

First, food prices will skyrocket with either inflation or due to the cost of transportation. Air and bus travel will halt due to the same reasons.

Then, people will panic, and strip supermarket shelves down to nothing, and when they realize there is no more coming, they will fill up their cars as best they can (stealing gas from neighbors, abandoned cars, etc.) and head to their nearest "country" family member's house.

Most of them won't make it out of the city, because their cars will overheat and run out of gas due to a complete overcrowding and shutdown of all major interstates and highways.

Those people will end up walking to the nearest "shelter" according to the radio, where they will eventually die from disease due to lack of medicine, sewage, and fresh water, and also due to the overcrowding.

All of that in the first few days/weeks.

In the coming weeks, cities and their suburbs will be looted of the move valuable items, such as jewelry, power equipment, gas, food, etc.
This probably won't be a dangerous time, because there is still enough easy pickings to keep them satiated.

About 30 days after TSHTF, people will begin organizing into parties with various intentions. The few cars still running will be targets of attack for small (3-5 man teams) groups of thieves. Any roads that are still open, will probably be blocked off and used as ambush points. Homes which are abandoned will probably be looted and burned once the groups are finished with them. They will go door to door, and probably skip houses that offer armed resistance.

Beyond 45-60 days, all those houses that were skipped will be burned/invaded by the guys that initially passed them by. Resources are scarce enough now that risking life and limb is worth it for taking a well stocked home.

Even if a party tries to take a VERY well prepared homestead and fails, they will just come back with better numbers, and they will not stop until they are dead or they take the homestead.

[TheLastMountainMan]

Economic collapse, starting with martial law. Coming soon to a "theater" near you.

[PT945]

Abridged version is.
Hyper inflation
Higher crime
Food rushes
Gas shortages
Mass panic
Civil unrest
Police state
Total chaos

[slowz1k]

Economic collapse is unavoidable at this point. We keep printing money and pissing off our debtors that are holding our ever shrinking dollars. Oil prices climbing should help push us over the edge.

I think your crystal ball is well tuned bcauz3y... That's pretty much what I expect as well.
I think the cities will gut themselves fairly quickly in proper Katrina fashion. Food shortages and a breakdown of the ditribution systems will starve most that aren't caught up in the violence. Local gangs will rule until they can be killed off. My hope is that we'll all still be around after this violent transition period to put stuff back together.

[survivalcookie]

I have imagined 2 things that will bring us to our knees and both are civil unrest...the first, being a secret truckers strike...these have not worked before because they were always announced and people prepared for them...the world kept moving so they were ineffective and did not last long...now imagine a secret one...no one is prepared...the store shelves would be completely bare in 3 days...now go backs wards...the stores ware houses would not be stocked...the processors would not get their foods to process...the gas stations would run out of gas...those that manufacture petroleum to make their products would not get their shipments...and on it goes...our economy could be shut down in a matter of a 2 or 3 weeks.

The second will be Nostradamus predictions 12/12/12 I think the world will end as we know it...I don't think the world is going to have major natural disaster (but I have been wrong before). I think we are seeing that already...I believe the US will have a melt down after the 2012 presidential elections either way it falls. I believe if Obama does not win we will see the unions get the ones who are receiving entitlement into the streets to riot....and If Obama wins I think we will see those who know our country will not last another 4 years taking to the streets to protest...either way both will end up with military action....and having been a dependent of the military for many years...I want to think that those in the military will not fight against their own and join the militias against the tyrants. Sorry if I offended anyone.

[Diesel]

I have imagined 2 things that will bring us to our knees and both are civil unrest...the first, being a secret truckers strike...these have not worked before because they were always announced and people prepared for them...the world kept moving so they were ineffective and did not last long...now imagine a secret one...no one is prepared...the store shelves would be completely bare in 3 days...now go backs wards...the stores ware houses would not be stocked...the processors would not get their foods to process...the gas stations would run out of gas...those that manufacture petroleum to make their products would not get their shipments...and on it goes...our economy could be shut down in a matter of a 2 or 3 weeks.

The second will be Nostradamus predictions 12/12/12 I think the world will end as we know it...I don't think the world is going to have major natural disaster (but I have been wrong before). I think we are seeing that already...I believe the US will have a melt down after the 2012 presidential elections either way it falls. I believe if Obama does not win we will see the unions get the ones who are receiving entitlement into the streets to riot....and If Obama wins I think we will see those who know our country will not last another 4 years taking to the streets to protest...either way both will end up with military action....and having been a dependent of the military for many years...I want to think that those in the military will not fight against their own and join the militias against the tyrants. Sorry if I offended anyone.

I don't forsee the trucker thing ever happening.. wayyyyy too many independants that rely on work to eat and provide for their famillies

[survivalcookie]

I thought that too..until a trucker told me that there may come a time when he won't be able to drive his truck because of the cost of fuel and so many independents are having to go to work for private companies because they can no longer afford to drive as an independent.

[TennOutdoors]

personally I think it will be a series of things that will send it all tumbling down. civil unrest, food shortages, Economic disaster, add in a major natural disaster or two and things will start collapsing.

of course everything will have to happen close together. so the odds are long. but if it does its going to be a long bumpy ride.

[Echo2]

something like this....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N8gJ...2234&kw=dollar

[PT945]

something like this....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N8gJ...2234&kw=dollar

Yep exactly.

[Giver of Doom]

Yellowstone will cover 80 percent of the US in over 3 foot of volcanic ash and debris

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/01/110119-yellowstone-park-supervolcano-eruption-magma-science/

http://isthisthingon.org/Yellowstone/archive/2011/

[Skyowl's Wife]

something like this....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N8gJ...2234&kw=dollar

We watch the market at work. If we are to believe this video, when a big market fall happens and they halt trading, it's time to have a headache and go home.

An earlier video by NIA was a little less dire, it predicted this whole process would take a couple of weeks.

I suspect the truth will be somewhere in between because I don't think the Gimme People will burn the stores on that first day, I think they'll wait 2 or 3 to see if the FedGov feeds them. When it doesn't, it's time to either get out of Dodge or hunker down, depending upon where you live.

[Echo2]

We watch the market at work. If we are to believe this video, when a big market fall happens and they halt trading, it's time to have a headache and go home.

An earlier video by NIA was a little less dire, it predicted this whole process would take a couple of weeks.

I suspect the truth will be somewhere in between because I don't think the Gimme People will burn the stores on that first day, I think they'll wait 2 or 3 to see if the FedGov feeds them. When it doesn't, it's time to either get out of Dodge or hunker down, depending upon where you live.

Yeah....something like that...:)