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Maybe I am paranoid, but when I read this........

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    Homeland Security Enlists Clergy to Quell Public Unrest if Martial Law Ever Declared

    Could martial law ever become a reality in America? Some fear any nuclear, biological or chemical attack on U.S. soil might trigger just that. KSLA News 12 has discovered that the clergy would help the government with potentially their biggest problem: Us.
    Charleton Heston's now-famous speech before the National Rifle Association at a convention back in 2000 will forever be remembered as a stirring moment for all 2nd Amendment advocates. At the end of his remarks, Heston held up his antique rifle and told the crowd in his Moses-like voice, "over my cold, dead hands."
    While Heston, then serving as the NRA President, made those remarks in response to calls for more gun control laws at the time, those words live on. Heston's declaration captured a truly American value: An over-arching desire to protect our freedoms.
    But gun confiscation is exactly what happened during the state of emergency following Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans, along with forced relocation. U.S. Troops also arrived, something far easier to do now, thanks to last year's elimination of the 1878 Posse Comitatus act, which had forbid regular U.S. Army troops from policing on American soil.
    If martial law were enacted here at home, like depicted in the movie "The Siege", easing public fears and quelling dissent would be critical. And that's exactly what the 'Clergy Response Team' helped accomplish in the wake of Katrina.
    Dr. Durell Tuberville serves as chaplain for the Shreveport Fire Department and the Caddo Sheriff's Office. Tuberville said of the clergy team's mission, "the primary thing that we say to anybody is, 'let's cooperate and get this thing over with and then we'll settle the differences once the crisis is over.'"
    Such clergy response teams would walk a tight-rope during martial law between the demands of the government on the one side, versus the wishes of the public on the other. "In a lot of cases, these clergy would already be known in the neighborhoods in which they're helping to diffuse that situation," assured Sandy Davis. He serves as the director of the Caddo-Bossier Office of Homeland Security and Emergency Preparedness.
    For the clergy team, one of the biggest tools that they will have in helping calm the public down or to obey the law is the bible itself, specifically Romans 13. Dr. Tuberville elaborated, "because the government's established by the Lord, you know. And, that's what we believe in the Christian faith. That's what's stated in the scripture."
    Civil rights advocates believe the amount of public cooperation during such a time of unrest may ultimately depend on how long they expect a suspension of rights might last.

  • #2
    A good friend of mine sent me an email with the following:

    "'A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.

    "The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years.
    During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:

    1. From bondage to spiritual faith;
    2. From spiritual faith to great courage;
    3. From courage to liberty;
    4. From liberty to abundance;
    5. From abundance to complacency;
    6. From complacency to apathy;
    7. From apathy to dependence;
    8. From dependence back into bondage.
    Does democracy indeed have a shelf life? If so, where is the United States on the above scale from 1-8?

    I believe we are close to the end of #7 myself.

    My personal opinion and view is as follows:
    If this nation instills upon itself the hinderance of that which is martial law, and is backed by those who have a following; the clergy, we have entered into dependance. People will depend on the clergy to ease their woes and fears, and to provide shelter and food for those without.

    Those who own guns will form our civil army, fighting against brothers and sisters because they have chosen to obey the oath they took before they dawned a uniform of the armed forces of America.

    The civil army will gain in numbers as other nations take up arms against the U.S. military, until finally an uneasy peace falls across the land, and the United States of America is changed.
    "Reject the basic assumptions of civilization, especially the importance of material possessions." "The things you own end up owning you"-Tyler Durden


    • #3
      I hope we are not that blind. I like indoor plumbing, and A/c.


      • #4
        Sorry, but I must've missed it. When was the Posse Camitatus Act eliminated?

        TEOTWAWKI happens to all of us everyday. Always be prepared!



        • #5

          Originally posted by nitehawg View Post
          Sorry, but I must've missed it. When was the Posse Camitatus Act eliminated?
          It never was, however, because of the way the law is worded, and the way in which it can be carried out, things such as disasters (Katrina) or biological/nuclear warfare, the army can be used as crowd control.

          On October 1, 2008, the US Army announced that the 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team (BCT) will be under the day-to-day control of U.S. Army North, the Army service component of Northern Command (NORTHCOM), as an on-call federal response force for natural or man-made emergencies and disasters, including terrorist attacks.

          This marks the first time an active U.S. Army unit will be given a dedicated assignment to NORTHCOM, where it is stated they may be "called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive (CBRNE) attack." These soldiers will also learn how to use non-lethal weapons designed to "subdue unruly or dangerous individuals" without killing them, and also includes equipment to stand up a hasty road block; spike strips for slowing, stopping or controlling traffic; shields and batons; and beanbag bullets. However, the "non-lethal crowd control package [...] is intended for use on deployments to the war zone, not in the U.S. [...]".

          This formalizes a role for the use of federal troops within the United States during major public emergencies and disasters, as was the case in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina in 2005.[5] This has raised concern about the relationship between Posse Comitatus and the use of the military in domestic disaster support and homeland defense roles.
          "Reject the basic assumptions of civilization, especially the importance of material possessions." "The things you own end up owning you"-Tyler Durden


          • #6
            Like I said. I just must be paranoid.


            • #7

              I think I read that same article over a year or so ago. While it is disgusting, it is not, by any means, a surprise to me.

              Throughout history, Religion and State have gone hand-in-hand to to deny individual rights and oppress humanity and they still do so to this day.

              It would be especially easy now for our own government to use religious organizations to impose total control because--as of Bush Sr. and Bush, Jr.-- Federal and State taxdollars flow to religious-based "charter schools" and to religious charities known as "faith-based initiatives."

              All the government would have to do is say: "Who takes the King's coin obeys the King's rules" and the religious organizations would fall in line with whatever government dictates.

              And, of course, many religious organizations would go along with government dictates even without government funding to bribe them. Both Religion and State have philosophically and historically loved compliant sheeple.

              The first line of defense against that is on the bumper sticker: "Question Authority."

              One sure way to "Question Authority" is to watch this video, learn how power-mongering works, then reverse-engineer and foil it:

              Mind Control Made Easy: How to Become A Cult Leader
              A genius video about how to start a cult.Carey Burtt's other video.. How Not To Be Stupid - A Guide To Critical Thinking is at

              And the next line of defense is to live in such a way that you can tell any man at any minute to go to Hell. How to do that is what Survivalism is all about.
              Last edited by TheUnboundOne; 11-10-2008, 04:52 PM. Reason: Clarifying what "it" means
              "Apocalypse is by no means inevitable." --Jim Rice.