militias

[slowz1k]

As to a previous post, Treason is determined by the winners. Had we lost the America revolution then the leaders would have been hung for treason. I think the any member of government that ignores the constution they swore to uphold and defend is committing treason. This includes voting for any restriction of my rights or allowing any government entitlement program

Thanks for the history lesson. The truth of the matter is that this country's founders truly were guilty of treason. Had I been there, I would have been guilty as well. No one doubts that the current US government is in deep need of a morality check. Unfortunately, it is "We the People" who insist on allowing the continuation of corruption within not only washington, but our own city government. We're too busy voting for the next American Idol to bother researching the next American President. The 18 to 24 year old crowd that put Obama in office, can't wait for the next election "party bus" to roll through and take them to the polls to vote that straight ticket.... even though most of them don't even know what that is. As I said before, there may come a time that forceful change in government is needed, until that time I will fully support the Constitution, even if my elected officials do not.


1. Treason, sedition mean disloyalty or treachery to one's country or its government. Treason is any attempt to overthrow the government or impair the well-being of a state to which one owes allegiance; the crime of giving aid or comfort to the enemies of one's government. Sedition is any act, writing, speech, etc., directed unlawfully against state authority, the government, or constitution, or calculated to bring it into contempt or to incite others to hostility, ill will or disaffection; it does not amount to treason and therefore is not a capital offense.

[OneBadPig]

Kenno,

You don't trust yourself with that kind of power? Come on are you on meds or something else that makes you go off uncontrolled?

I took it as a sign of his humbleness, as opposed to the ungodly arrogance of our government.
Slowz1k is right about the local aspect, militia membership needs to be from close by in order to react to a threat to your local area. How can the group be "mustered" if communications are down and the members are scattered over a 6 county area?
As far as fighting our own soldiers, conversations with current and former service members gives me great hope that if there is to be a fight for freedom, they will be leading it not standing in the way:cool:
I suspect that most of those "chatroom Rambos" wont answer the call....

[waitnc]

The military is the last people you need to fear in a government against he masses scenario. My oppinion. It is the gangs and the welfare class we need to form together in the "Militia" role to protect our personal efforts to survive the scenario that comes upon us.
Thank everyone.

[Oscar Wilde]

[what is everyones thoughts on militias]

My concern is that I wish to be recognized as a responsible, contributing, upstanding member of my community before I am identified as a member of some questionable militia group. I prefer to stand shoulder to shoulder with those who will fight to defend what is right as opposed to folks who are perceived to be frustrated, angry and prepared to lash out. As a respected member of my community I am more likely to be successful at rallying potential allies. The mental image of militia, thanks to the govt. owned media, is less than appealing to the average citizen but when one of their likeness demonstrates an air of determination to stand their ground they may also become so inspired. Without the participation of average citizenry we will find ourselves in the middle of a losing battle.
O.W.

[OneBadPig]

I understand OW, the media already has us labeled as kooks for wanting to have more than a few days worth of groceries on hand:cool:

[cwconnertx]

Unfortunately, it is "We the People" who insist on allowing the continuation of corruption within not only washington, but our own city government. We're too busy voting for the next American Idol to bother researching the next American President. The 18 to 24 year old crowd that put Obama in office, can't wait for the next election "party bus" to roll through and take them to the polls to vote that straight ticket.... even though most of them don't even know what that is. As I said before, there may come a time that forceful change in government is needed, until that time I will fully support the Constitution, even if my elected officials do not.

The problem is no matter what people may vote for or who they may elect they are not entitled to step beyond the bounds of the constitution they swore to uphold and protect. If the people want free healthcare and welfare, even if it is 90% of the population, the elected officials have a responsibility to uphold the constitution, or amend it, not continue the theft and destruction of the country just becuase its is the will of the people. Democracy is a dangerous thing, 51% of the people can completely strip 49% of everything they have without the rule of law to stop them. I'm afraid we're past the point of the law protecting us, thevlaw is used to support an underclass of thieves who desire to live off the labor of their fellow man. The law is used to rape those who achieve to give to those who do not. Hopefully 51% or more will do the moral thing and end the giveaways. Anyone who supports taking from me to give to others is supporting theft and anyone who takes it is receiving stolen property. I'm afraid the moral fiber is gone but I hope change can come peacefully.

[slowz1k]

cwconnertx,

Well put. I'm afraid things will get much worse before they get better.

[Big_Saw]

There is only one reason I will not join any regulated militia.....paper trail....when the fighting starts, these groups may be among the first assigned targets of tyrannical oppression and military police action.....I hope for a little more warning....so I can hear the shots and respond accordingly, rather than be caught in the first surprise wave....

[Big_Saw]

As for gangbangers and such...Though they may be willing to fight, and indeed kill for their agendas, I truly doubt any ten of them could effectively outstand two well-prepared survivalists....One group is driven by greed, lust, popular agenda, etc....the other has already learned his/her craft, and has (hopefully) lain contingencies for such conflicts.....

[Skyowl's Wife]

There is only one reason I will not join any regulated militia.....paper trail....when the fighting starts, these groups may be among the first assigned targets of tyrannical oppression and military police action.....I hope for a little more warning....so I can hear the shots and respond accordingly, rather than be caught in the first surprise wave....

Have you got a CCW? You are already a target, as am I.

[Big_Saw]

Yeah, of course, but I still think the organized militias will be among the first drum beats....plus, I'm very rural, so I should see it hitting the cities and towns first....with time to spare....

[Skyowl]

While not comletely rural, we're in a small town of 50K that is 75 miles from Tucson. Plus we have the Army fort on the western side of town. We should have some warning.

[prkchp76]

i wish it were as easy as we think if there is a copnfrontation it does not matter how prepped you are it matters how quick on the feet you are and how resourcefull you can be

[hudson69]

I try to avoid the whole militia thing myself but have looked at KISSATA. I like that concept but instead of showing up on their radar by forming a three person (or larger group) and hooking up with an existing one I will play it by ear.

Someone else mentioned just getting an informal group together and that is what my neighbors and I are kind of doing. Realistically it is fishing trips, the annual hunt, a few camping trips and sporadic trips to the range; nothing big and it is fun.

Only one neighbor and I are really socked away for an extended "lack of adequate food or water" time period but between all of us we should do all right; unless the zombies come.

[Big_Saw]

I try to avoid the whole militia thing myself but have looked at KISSATA. I like that concept but instead of showing up on their radar by forming a three person (or larger group) and hooking up with an existing one I will play it by ear.

Someone else mentioned just getting an informal group together and that is what my neighbors and I are kind of doing. Realistically it is fishing trips, the annual hunt, a few camping trips and sporadic trips to the range; nothing big and it is fun.

Only one neighbor and I are really socked away for an extended "lack of adequate food or water" time period but between all of us we should do all right; unless the zombies come.

What you're referring to is called "cellular" strategy, and I believe it's by far the most effective contingency....three to six members per cell and as many cells as possible in limited contact and with a similar objective.... ;)