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  • #16
    Thanks for sharing this article Oz. 'I think'. The way things are spiriling, I tend to believe this sooner if not later. All i can think about are my kids. Have to protect them and make the correct decisions when the situation arises. I think all fathers and husbands fear the words 'what are we going to do'. Like other like minded folks here, we will have answers to those questions. Hold on tight and good fortune be with us.

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    • #17
      When does "flu season" typically begin? Whenever that date is.....is probably when we need to have all major preps completed by.
      CTHULHU/Dagon 2012

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      • #18
        I live in a low population denisty area however in my local bi-monthly paper there is a report of an outbreak at a very small Christian summer camp near Antelope, OR the summer camp was canceled as a result. The illness is assumed to be H1N1 or what ever they call it. The fact that this was 'caught' in mid summer or that the health authorities of a very lightly populated county(1 person per square mile) proceeded on the assumption it is swineflu shows how seriously they are taking this event. Because I live and work in an agicultural occupation I get exposed to every bug that comes-up from Mexico, I hope that provides some immunity.
        it is my understanding that Flu viruses are all around us but as the weather turns colder we close our windows, sneeze more and it is easier to get a dose of the flu, especialy during winter holiday shopping and travel. This causes the virus to spread and mutate more abundantly.
        Shop by mail, take lots of vitamins, etc, carry a hanky to sneeze into.
        Last edited by kenno; 08-09-2009, 12:31 AM.
        The road to serfdom is paved with free electric golf carts.

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        • #19
          Am I the only one here that takes the Flu vaccine and wants to take any offered for strains that might strike?

          I don't believe that vaccines should be forced on people and will take my vaccine and still stand beside those that fight against being forced to take a vaccine. For me it is a dilemma becuase by taking the vaccine I would be following an order I agree with but feel is wrong.

          It worries me that the government would force this on anyone

          It also makes me wonder how many would refuse and why, and also why the use of force might ever be considered. Civil wars and unrest can easily kill more than the flu.
          My weapon can kill, it isn't limited to mere assault

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          • #20
            People will die for what they believe in, rather than die from what they despise, especially if they think eugenics is once again upon us.
            Hitler poisoned the well for all 'well intentioned' Socialists.
            Last edited by kenno; 08-09-2009, 02:26 AM.
            The road to serfdom is paved with free electric golf carts.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by cwconnertx View Post
              Am I the only one here that takes the Flu vaccine and wants to take any offered for strains that might strike?

              I don't believe that vaccines should be forced on people and will take my vaccine and still stand beside those that fight against being forced to take a vaccine. For me it is a dilemma becuase by taking the vaccine I would be following an order I agree with but feel is wrong.

              It worries me that the government would force this on anyone

              It also makes me wonder how many would refuse and why, and also why the use of force might ever be considered. Civil wars and unrest can easily kill more than the flu.
              Have you researched this vaccine?? It has many more "fillers" than passed flu vaccines because the gov is pushing the pharm industry to developed it quickly and make a lot of it. The fillers are designed to boost the immune effect of the vaccine, but because there are more than usual it will push the immune system into hyper-overdrive. The immune system will attack good everything in your body that it views as a threat, even if it is something your body needs. There have already been deaths in Australia from the vaccine. I urge you to do your research
              bbc
              The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is as a last resort to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson

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              • #22
                I will not be taking the vaccine voluntarily.
                There is formaldehyde, murcury and a host of other things in it. While it may not be enough to kill you, little by little it builds up in your body and will break down your immune system. Here is a listing of ingredients in some common vaccines. I'm not a doctor, but I do know that avoidance and a healthy immune system are just as important to resisting the flu. As for vaccines for other diseases, some are absolutely needed, as the disease was so devestating and prevalent that it was obviously something we'd want to take, and in some cases it virtually eradicated the disease (small pox, polio etc). Those are MUCH different than an every changing variety of flu. It's been proven also that #1-the best immunity to flu is to have had it in the past and #2-the vaccine itself is not affective enough (less than 50%) to take the chance. JMO

                http://www.rense.com/general59/vvac.htm

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                • #23
                  [For me it is a dilemma becuase by taking the vaccine I would be following an order I agree with but feel is wrong.]

                  Who do you allow to reign over you and issue you orders whether you agree or not?

                  [Civil wars and unrest can easily kill more than the flu.]

                  As I understand things, It is my belief that TPTB are anticipating the combination of the aforementioned events to do just that .....
                  O.W.
                  Things are seldom what they seem.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by beebopcop View Post
                    Have you researched this vaccine?? It has many more "fillers" than passed flu vaccines because the gov is pushing the pharm industry to developed it quickly and make a lot of it. The fillers are designed to boost the immune effect of the vaccine, but because there are more than usual it will push the immune system into hyper-overdrive. The immune system will attack good everything in your body that it views as a threat, even if it is something your body needs. There have already been deaths in Australia from the vaccine. I urge you to do your research
                    bbc
                    Well I certainly don't want to die!

                    I haven't been offered it yet, but I don't like being told what to do, that is for sure.

                    I will look into it.
                    My weapon can kill, it isn't limited to mere assault

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                    • #25
                      My husband has been a member of the volunteer fire department for almost 20 years. He runs Rescue occasionally. We've discussed it, and I've stated my case in no uncertain terms that he should not take any vaccine. he also recently joined Fire Police, which has a provision that they get 'deputized' or whatever the correct term is in case of martial law. No murmurs yet.

                      I will not take a flu vaccine, and I guess we'll be homeschooling this year, because there is no way in hell I will let my children take this. It's bad enough all the crap I let them inject in my children since birth (thinking it was good for them), but I've come to believe more and more it's dangerous to their health.

                      I'm upping my preps (have been for a while), really stockpiling the food and OTC meds, plus freezing plenty of prepared meals for the kids in case I should succumb to the flu (I'm one of those with underlying medical problems- asthmatic)
                      "Be Excellent to Each Other"

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                      • #26
                        Time to dig in our heels and tie up and loose ends that could be lacking in our preps.

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                        • #27
                          oscars right be careful, there will be no mercey for the weak, great info from you all, get hot on the preps. there is no time to waste.!!!!
                          Last edited by leadslinger; 08-14-2009, 02:49 PM.
                          You can not multiply wealth by dividing it.:cool:

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