The end

[neverknow]

This is a very weird serious want to know question... When is it comeing, Not a doomsday question but the end of the USA and the economy ive heard as soon as the end of august but as late as 3 years from now. What do you guys think. I trust you guys more then some ass with a suit and a agenda.

[HileTroy]

I think we all have varied opinions on that subject matter, but in my long lifetime, I have not seen this country going down the sewer so quickly. The swirling is sure spinning faster it seems every day. But that is why we are here on the chat, to be prepared as best we can when bad events do happen. I sure sleep better knowing that.

[Visinedrops]

In my best estimates, I do not think anything major actually happening to destroy the country. What I do feel will happen is a social uprising against further taxing and increasing spiral effect of unemployment.

Because of rumor, skepticism, and conspiracy theory, I will refrain from mentioning anything that has not been publicly announced. There's no reason to incite worry if there is nothing to worry about...relatively speaking.

[weaver]

Do not ask when the bell tolls, just be sure you have your ear muffs on. ;)

[kenno]

Politicaly speaking I feel that the term 'Obamanation' may become an understatement. the prezzy certainly seems to be a classifyable personality type with very negative conotations. The managment plan he is following has more in common with the Red Guard and Brown Shirts than any democratic ideal. Without Consertive Talk Radio and Fox News the Socialist Health Plan would already been past and King Obamma would be in TOTAL control of american society as well as have his minority racial job alocation agenda in place. There is no doubt that he want's this nation to die, not with a bang, but a whimper, so no revolt, just a long painful death.

[Mags]

I have nothing further to add. Kenno did a fine job. Thank You Kenno, thank you. Ok, one thing, I hope and pray that before the greatness of our Republic is gone there is a rebellion. Whether it starts with a shout or a shot I really am begining not to care. This guy is sooo far from the founding fathers it sickitates me.:mad:

Some of you on this board might be interested in this org. Linky; http://oathkeepers.org/oath/ Like many of you I have sworn time and time again to defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, so help me God.

1. We will NOT obey orders to disarm the American people.

2. We will NOT obey orders to conduct warrantless searches of the American people

3. We will NOT obey orders to detain American citizens as “unlawful enemy combatants” or to subject them to military tribunal.

4. We will NOT obey orders to impose martial law or a “state of emergency” on a state.

5. We will NOT obey orders to invade and subjugate any state that asserts its sovereignty.

6. We will NOT obey any order to blockade American cities, thus turning them into giant concentration camps.

7. We will NOT obey any order to force American citizens into any form of detention camps under any pretext.

8. We will NOT obey orders to assist or support the use of any foreign troops on U.S. soil against the American people to “keep the peace” or to “maintain control."

9. We will NOT obey any orders to confiscate the property of the American people, including food and other essential supplies.

10.We will NOT obey any orders which infringe on the right of the people to free speech, to peaceably assemble, and to petition their government for a redress of grievances.

[Lil Bear]

AMEN Brother!!!!

[unswydd]

Kenno,Mags, Both good posts. I just finished reading Patriot and I have to say I believe you're right. I feel that our country will be slowly torn apart with no one the wiser for it.
When will we stand? Who knows. I'll be ready in any way I'm needed.

[ashelocoa]

Economic and infrastructural collapse

I keep getting the feeling that with all the polititions and corporations(and even some foreign countries:mad:) looting our nations worth, that the house of cards is collapsing and these various entities are just grabbing what they can as the door shuts on the rest of us. Ever hear the phrase "Last one out turn out the lights"? That's the impression I'm getting. And we're all being left in the dark. However, a major war erupting, or China pulling the financial rug out from under us could hasten our demise even sooner than the elites would like. I know that's a pretty dim view and I'm about 70% sure it's accurate.
I've been studying 18th century frontier and Native American life for some time and practice more skills all the time, including material preperations for our own support. I have no faith in the "experts" and there is no leadership in Washington anymore that I have any faith in to lose.
On a brighter note the nation IS waking up in spite of all the fluff media coverage of non events to distract us. Americans as a whole are learning from their own mistakes and those of our leaders. Maybe we'll pull out of this nose dive, but if we don't I am doing everything possible to provide for my family's safety and well being.

[Brosia]

This is a very weird serious want to know question... When is it comeing, Not a doomsday question but the end of the USA and the economy ive heard as soon as the end of august but as late as 3 years from now..

ahhh, if we only knew the answer! Everyone, from so-called economic experts to the man on the street (at least, those who actually have their eyes open and SEE that something is happening) have an opinion on when.

As it is, I feel it's coming a lot faster than I'm ready!!

[Skyowl]

ahhh, if we only knew the answer!

As Brosia has so defty stated, "If we only knew".

Seriously, I have no clue as to what will eventually happen but we are preparing for the worst and hoping for the best. This runnaway rush to pass the monstrosity of a health care reform bill will help sell us down that nasty river that we may not recover from. Once folks get on the gimme list, including citizens and illegals, its very difficult to get them off of it. The gimme list is how these idiots stay in power, coupled with those that think their vote doesn't count so they stay home and bitch about how it all turned out.

Once they get "the gimme people" on their side, we may never get them out of office without a rebellion of some sort. Wife and I both believe that we are heading for Civil War II. Those of us that are paying, and those that want/demand/receive yet pay for nothing. The question is, how will you respond? I, for one, will not go out with a wimper.

[Skyowl's Wife]

I, for one, will not go out with a wimper.

That's my guy! :D

[Mags]

I hear you brother, but, for clarification, "I do not whimper." nor will I go softly into this good night.

[Skyowl's Wife]

I hear you brother, but, for clarification, "I do not whimper." nor will I go softly into this good night.

I suspect what was unsaid was that it would be with a bang as opposed to a whimper...

[Mags]

I understood, just felt the need to thump my chest and proclaim MY stance. Same page ma'am, same page.;)