Just curious How many here are in a groups or are you doing it alone. I am considering forming a group (strength in numbers). I realy do not know how to start:confused: It is a risk of exsposeing your family to others you know nothing about!! Have considered talking to neighbours but I am a little affriad they will think I am nuts:eek: Just curious what you`all were doing???????
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Most people around where I live are fairly strong survivors for the most part so I have a feeling this whole county will fair pretty well. But I don't want to form a group per se, I would prefer to move out away from everyone and get my own thing going as best I can, if others decide to join me later perhaps I'd let them but I don't really want to have to run some community.Perfer et obdura; dolor hic tibi proderit olim.
~ Be patient and tough; some day this pain will be useful to you.-Ovid
Mus uni non fidit antro.
~ A mouse does not rely on just one hole.-Plautus
Non semper erit aestas
~ It will not always be summer.
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I heard that on the lotery!! We have family in West Virginia and have talked about makeing that our SHFT area.Just hate to walk away from our home,but if it gets that bad,Gotta do what you gotta do!!Remington 700 7MM ultra Mag
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When the people fear the government there is tyranny; when the government fears the people there is liberty!
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My opinion
I think should the balloon go up, I would be VERY leary of anyone other then people I knew very well. Lots of people out there that only behave themselves just because they do not want to go to prison. Laws are written to control those 10%, the other 90% are just normal folks. I would be very leary of getting any of those 10% anywhere near me.
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Originally posted by TheUnboundOne View PostTracker, I'm not part of any group and have too full a plate to run a group, but I have given thought to taking First Aid courses and maybe joining the local REACT group to try and meet similar-minded people as well as learn new skills.Remington 700 7MM ultra Mag
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When the people fear the government there is tyranny; when the government fears the people there is liberty!
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Tracker and Rustyshakelford, You both have wise words here. If you do join or form a group, I would also be very leery of anyone who brazenly incites violence and revolution or the very questionable pro se law/"Patriot Movement" stupid legal tricks. These people are scam artists or even undercover G-Men trying to entrap suckers.
The perfectly legitimate ways of simplicity, self-sufficiency, one-man self-employment, and disaster preparedness are perhaps the only realistic ways to avoid most taxation and regulation and stay out of the System until things can get better. After all, the less you need and the more you can make and grow for yourself, the less sales taxes you have to pay, the less property taxes you have to pay, the less you have to work for a paycheck, and the less income taxes you have to pay. Not perfect, I know, but it's do-able and 100 % legal."Apocalypse is by no means inevitable." --Jim Rice.
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Originally posted by TheUnboundOne View PostThe perfectly legitimate ways of simplicity, self-sufficiency, one-man self-employment, and disaster preparedness are perhaps the only realistic ways to avoid most taxation and regulation and stay out of the System until things can get better. After all, the less you need and the more you can make and grow for yourself, the less sales taxes you have to pay, the less property taxes you have to pay, the less you have to work for a paycheck, and the less income taxes you have to pay. Not perfect, I know, but it's do-able and 100 % legal.
TUO, I have said it before, your advise is top notch. Keep it coming.
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Originally posted by tracker View PostJust curious How many here are in a groups or are you doing it alone. I am considering forming a group (strength in numbers). I realy do not know how to start:confused: It is a risk of exsposeing your family to others you know nothing about!! Have considered talking to neighbours but I am a little affriad they will think I am nuts:eek: Just curious what you`all were doing???????The government cannot give to anyone anything that it does not first take from someone else.
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My thoughts would tend to join a .gov "group" on a local, county or state level. Vol. Fire/EMS, reserve sheriff, RACES, ARES, REACT, CERT, you get the idea. The training/education opportunities are tremendous, often provided free or on the .gov's dime. You would have access to equipment normally unavailable to others. You might even have access to intell. that others don't. Being recognized as a "first responder" might also help you in your ability to move about and get home or get out, whichever you deem necessary. And, trust me, if the balloon does go up, these groups will protect and provide for their own first.
Naturally, I've heard the horror stories associated with some of these groups, so you would have to choose very wisely. I would attend several meetings of the subject group and see which way things are going. See if I fit in and if our philosophies align. If not, then bail out.
If you are totally unable to find an appropriate group, then I would look to start one using the public service, volunteer venue. I.E. start a search and rescue group, or an emergency disaster response team. The possibilities are endless, always with the vision of getting that "first responder" status.ENJOY AND STAY SAFE
TEOTWAWKI happens to all of us everyday. Always be prepared!
P.A.W.T. = PROUD AMERICAN WHITE TRASH
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TUO,
You are correct. What I was trying to get across is the idea of joining a "legit" recognized group of "good guys." Call it the "gray man" approach or whatever. My belief is if you join or organize a group designed for protection/survival of your area, even if all of you are the best intentioned, purest of heart people still walking, all it would take is the "opinion" of one official type person to brand your group "rogue, thugs, terr's." and you got a whole new set of problems.ENJOY AND STAY SAFE
TEOTWAWKI happens to all of us everyday. Always be prepared!
P.A.W.T. = PROUD AMERICAN WHITE TRASH
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4-H could be a possibility for young people and the adults in their lives, since they teach farming, animal husbandry, and other skills that could possibly be useful for homesteading and surviving-in-place.Last edited by TheUnboundOne; 09-19-2008, 03:58 PM."Apocalypse is by no means inevitable." --Jim Rice.
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actually that's a fantastic idea, never thought of that.WHAT IF THE AMERICA YOU KNEW, WAS ABOUT TO CHANGE?
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