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  • #61
    Today in the free state of Florida the governor signed four laws passed by the legislature. All were involving vaccines and what the state will prevent from happening. IE. School systems and masks.

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    • #62
      'Medical Exemptions' aside, UK has the diminishing percentage of unvaccinated contributing 4-of-5 covid-related hospitalisations and deaths.

      While large un-masked, un-distanced, un-vaccinated crowds gather to protest increasing strictures on the un-vaccinated...

      And 'boosters' ? Delta is felling folk who'd had the 'A', recovered. It partly out-flanks A's immunity unless that is synergised with a 'booster'

      Worry is a variant strain emerging that totally scoffs at a prior infection's immunity, needs full vaccination to protect...

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      • #63
        My daughter is in her early 40s is fully vaccinated and has VITT (Vaccine-Induced Immune Thrombotic Thrombocytopenia) from the vaccine.
        A friend is going to die from developed myocarditis, pericarditis and another one as a result of being vaccinated.

        https://vaersanalysis.info/2021/11/1...gh-11-12-2021/

        Where there is a risk; there should be a choice. IMO, if a anti-vaxxer catches COVID and dies; it was their choice and the same applies to the vaccinated; again, it was their choice.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Tugaloo View Post
          My daughter is in her early 40s is fully vaccinated and has VITT (Vaccine-Induced Immune Thrombotic Thrombocytopenia) from the vaccine.
          A friend is going to die from developed myocarditis, pericarditis and another one as a result of being vaccinated.

          https://vaersanalysis.info/2021/11/1...gh-11-12-2021/

          Where there is a risk; there should be a choice. IMO, if a anti-vaxxer catches COVID and dies; it was their choice and the same applies to the vaccinated; again, it was their choice.
          I'm not anti-vax, I'm also not a "give it to me all in one big shot" type. But I am anti this vax.

          No one can say this wasn't completely rushed to market with all of the well developed safeguards being quickly and completely ignored. Any other vax would have the number of cases of deaths and side effects would have been shut down months ago, not getting a push from senile Joe every second of the day. Oh yes, everyone is to believe it's in the name of saving people... how noble... what's that Pfizer just booked $370B the last quarter... nothing to see here. Media is in cahoots with them lock step in their knee high boots. And tell me this isn't about new world governments seizing control. Have you seen the crap going down in Australia? The media and govt also keep conveniently ignoring that this vax is not fully approved, it is still in FDA trials until late 22 or early 23 even though it should have been cancelled months ago.

          As you say, maybe my natural immunity won't prove out and I might catch some variant and die. If so, I did based solely on my decision as a free and independent human being. I'd rather that than die because some big pharma board and bureaucrats say I had to take their wonder drug while they sat their counting dollars.

          At this point I know more people negatively affected by the vaccine than those negatively impacted by covid.
          CountryGuy
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          Last edited by CountryGuy; 11-22-2021, 09:26 PM.
          I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you!

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          • #65
            Originally posted by CountryGuy View Post

            I'm not anti-vax, I'm also not a "give it to me all in one big shot" type. But I am anti this vax.

            No one can say this wasn't completely rushed to market with all of the well developed safeguards being quickly and completely ignored. Any other vax would have the number of cases of deaths and side effects would have been shut down months ago, not getting a push from senile Joe every second of the day. Oh yes, everyone is to believe it's in the name of saving people... how noble... what's that Pfizer just booked $370B the last quarter... nothing to see here. Media is in cahoots with them lock step in their knee high boots. And tell me this isn't about new world governments seizing control. Have you seen the crap going down in Australia? The media and govt also keep conveniently ignoring that this vax is not fully approved, it is still in FDA trials until late 22 or early 23 even though it should have been cancelled months ago.

            As you say, maybe my natural immunity won't prove out and I might catch some variant and die. If so, I did based solely on my decision as a free and independent human being. I'd rather that than die because some big pharma board and bureaucrats say I had to take their wonder drug while they sat their counting dollars.

            At this point I know more people negatively affected by the vaccine than those negatively impacted by covid.
            Simply said; although I'm male, I'm pro choice. The way I see matters, it is a choice. As you said for better or worse, one lives with their choices. Have you seen the movie "V for Vendetta"?
            I'm not anti-vaxxing; again, I am strongly pro-choice and strongly anti-mandate.


            It took a lot of political pressure to push the vaccines out.

            Same here, I also know more people adversely affected by COVID vaccines than I know people without pre-existing conditions affected by COVID.

            There are anti-vaxxing riots in Europe. On the home front our media claims the rioters are white supremacists. I've seem Poor Boys, Anti-FA, BLM or any others on our streets; however, I've never seen any of them carrying their children..

            At the https://vaersanalysis.info/2021/11/1...gh-11-12-2021/ Their charts state COVID vaccines create more issues than every other vaccine since 1990.

            https://www.republicworld.com/world-...tion-risk.html

            This article also well worth reading.
            https://www.wibw.com/2021/10/07/some...hose-30-under/
            Here, we plan on vaxxing children over 5.

            Here's another:
            https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/bo...t-least-45000/

            In our opinion, it as all about control, money and power.

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            • #66
              I checked the news this morning and as some of us predicted over a year ago...this Covid business would be going on in perpetuity to keep government in power over people's individual liberties and freedoms.

              Another variation is on the horizon to bring us to the next state of emergency .....and make the last set of vaccines obsolete.


              I sense that Australia and some other countries and the measures and extremes they are taking are the template for here in America with forced vaccinations via the military. If not then separation....into isolation camps.....and whatever comes next...

              More and more increases of government power over the nation and people....to "Herd" everything and everyone into their control and loss of liberty , freedom, and the Constitution....under a perpetual state of Emergency.


              Buckle up...seat belts and shoulder harnesses and trays in the upright and stowed position...in perpetuity...forever..


              These people are become drunk on power and money creation..to keep and maintain power.


              My view of Covid has become that it is a money laundering/kickback scheme to the political party system..costs them nothing....and at the same time as an Instrument to increase their power and control over the people and nation.


              I think the same thing about Illegal aliens...being let into the country...a money laundering/kickback scheme for the political party apparatus....to increase their power and control...over the herd....costs them nothing....by fiat money creation.

              It is also a way to put Americans in second, third, and fourth place...exactly as is being done in many nations in Europe and the UK.


              Climate Change is exactly the same program.....but couched differently for those who cannot or will not think outside the box.

              Climate Change is more "Herding".....and also a money laundering/kickback scheme...to hold all nations into their bondage and hostage while putting more limits on people's freedoms and liberties to choose for themselves...it is in essence more "Herding."

              Again, costs them noting in a fiat money creation system.....




              Be Warned the Ishmaelites who would put us into their form of bondage and involuntary servitude....and put limits on our freedoms and liberties...under the guise of an emergency...

              They also need us to be afraid with more government as the solution to these man made and managed problems/issues.


              My non Ishmaelite .02,
              Orangetom

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              • #67
                I don't see how this is much of a problem.

                I have a fairly good library of Alaska history, written by those who lived it. In one book the author, who was working and living on a remote mining camp, records that he was "sent" to a roadhouse, to get some supplies for the camp. While there he learned there was a war and it had been going for over a year, and America was now involved. He returned with the supplies, then he and some other men, traveled on foot 160 miles to Valdez, Alaska to enlist in the Army.

                In an other book the author recounts, learning of some kind of economic depression, has been ongoing for years in America, this he discovered in 1932.

                My point being.......that those living remote, with new zero government rules, and near zero social rules, most if not all of what is coming will not impact the person living deep in the wilderness.
                One day you eat the chicken.....next day the left-over chicken.....next five days you eat chicken feathers, head and feet.

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                • #68
                  I have long advocated that those most likely to survive what is coming.......will be those living in deep wilderness, with little or "NO" contact with humans.
                  One day you eat the chicken.....next day the left-over chicken.....next five days you eat chicken feathers, head and feet.

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                  • #69
                    I'm not a believer that mankind caused climate change. My reasoning is simple.
                    It may be hard to believe, but Antarctica was once covered in towering forests.

                    One hundred million years ago, the Earth was in the grip of an extreme Greenhouse Effect.
                    https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-12378934

                    Without mankind, Antarctica was green, how could that have been possible?

                    There isn't a need to think outside the box as the need is get educated passed the latest hype we are fed.

                    How long can one last without replenishing some supplies is the question.
                    Even Dick Proenneke received mail, coffee and sugar from bush pilots.
                    http://www.dickproenneke.com






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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Tugaloo View Post

                      How long can one last without replenishing some supplies is the question.
                      Even Dick Proenneke received mail, coffee and sugar from bush pilots.
                      [url]http://www.dickproenneke.com[/url
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                      How long can one last........???? "FOR EVER".......it will simply be different. Dick Proenneke could live for decades on fish and caribou and moose, and dall sheep, and waterfowl, coyote meat, abundant berries, etc. He did not need "Mail" or coffee or sugar to survive.

                      Less then 50 years before Dick P. moved there the original Alaskans, would migrate between there (Lake Clark) in the summer and Stoney River there winter village. There basically lived on Caribou in winter and fish in the summer.

                      We have these silly ideas where-in we confuse need and desire. We don't need much to just stay alive, the problem is people "desire" to continue living this delusional life of "bounty". The life we are accustomed to today, did not exist when I was born 75 years ago. "NO ONE" in America today lives close to the awful poverty I was raised in the 40's and 50's in no electric in back woods Pennsylvania.
                      One day you eat the chicken.....next day the left-over chicken.....next five days you eat chicken feathers, head and feet.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Sourdough View Post

                        How long can one last........???? "FOR EVER".......it will simply be different. Dick Proenneke could live for decades on fish and caribou and moose, and dall sheep, and waterfowl, coyote meat, abundant berries, etc. He did not need "Mail" or coffee or sugar to survive.

                        Less then 50 years before Dick P. moved there the original Alaskans, would migrate between there (Lake Clark) in the summer and Stoney River there winter village. There basically lived on Caribou in winter and fish in the summer.

                        We have these silly ideas where-in we confuse need and desire. We don't need much to just stay alive, the problem is people "desire" to continue living this delusional life of "bounty". The life we are accustomed to today, did not exist when I was born 75 years ago. "NO ONE" in America today lives close to the awful poverty I was raised in the 40's and 50's in no electric in back woods Pennsylvania.
                        Forever is until they die or ran out of "supplies" or in Dick Proenneke's case; until he had to go into a home. I can't imagine leaving here to move into even a small town or a "home." IMO, being in a "home" would have destroyed him inside where no one can see.
                        Not the wants but the needs. To him, mail was a need because he could communicate with those he loved. Most certainly, he could have done without mail, coffee or sugar.
                        Dick Proenneke never migrated, he stayed there.

                        BTW, the original Alaskans were what we call Native Americans or not people from the lower 48. In Hawaii, the native Hawaiians call those who came there Haole or people who came there and are not descended from the aboriginal Polynesian inhabitants of Hawaii. I'm curious if it is the same with Native Alaskans?

                        As far as meat without ammo, I can trap, fish, and can use a bow and arrow. As it will be to valuable to waste hunting, ammo will be saved for social occasions.
                        Those who plan on bugging out will learn they aren't wanted here and the hard way.

                        When I was a kid. Although we had electricity and natural gas simply because to supply the town, they ran by where we lived. OTOH, we couldn't afford to use either much.
                        To eat, we had chickens, ducks and rabbits. We grew our own vegetables. We bartered for beef and pork for so many chickens or eggs, we received a ham and rarely beef.
                        I grew up poor, but I never knew it because I ate well. My father worked in a textile mill and his sister sewed in a sweat shop. He could get cloth and she sewed for her family and ours.

                        Those people will learn the hard way, their life is delusional and they will learn, but the hard way. The first thing one must learn is there is nothing to prove and only surviving counts. As long as theirs doesn't interfere with ours and it will.
                        My biggest fear of a WROL are the batteries for my hearing aids. Whenever, they break the VA fixes them and I've gotten used to hearing what most take for granted with their God given hearing.

                        However same as Dick Proenneke, we may learn sooner or later, we may have to leave to live where we don't want to live to where we must live. Personally, my wife and I will die here.

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                        • #72
                          Watching the news media in it's working to prepare the public for the next round of limitations to their freedoms and liberties. behind this new variation of C19.

                          More media created fear, more concerns...more insecurity.


                          Looking for another round of lockdowns....and whatever comes next or with it...More joblessness.


                          Been thinking it will, in the future, become dangerous to go to the grocery store....to gas up at the station.


                          I've noticed more and more ...at the Grocery store....people panhandling in the parking lot...coming right up to people parked in their cars.

                          Also people going into the lines of cars pan handling in the drive up lanes...at the local Popeyes chicken place...across the lot from the local grocery store.


                          Have a lady I am now seeing who works in that grocery store...and am asking myself how long before it becomes dangerous for her to work there....

                          I am thinking economic times sufficient for looting to take place and danger to the employees and customers.


                          I am suspecting also that this is man made...and deliberately so....for political reasons.

                          That the long term plan is to have Americans take 2nd, 3rd, and fourth place in our own country while taking first place risks for our monies.

                          Just as is being done in the UK and on the Continent....to those people.


                          Ordo Ob Chao.....order from chaos.

                          Manufacture the Chaos such that one can bring in the New Order...


                          Ishmaelites run wild...


                          My non Ishmaelite .02,
                          Orangetom

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                          • #73
                            Ditto on more lockdowns, inflation, lost jobs and more. Anarchy in our streets, As the song said "It's a sign of the times."

                            https://www.dailywire.com/news/forme...ss-the-country
                            According to police reports, it's a smash and grab. Now get this, in some places, it is only a felony if the value was in excess of $900.



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                            • #74
                              $4.49 ea. today

                              SHK 30rd Steel AR15 Magazines UPC: 00850003223070 - Global Ordnance
                              One day you eat the chicken.....next day the left-over chicken.....next five days you eat chicken feathers, head and feet.

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                              • #75
                                Thanks for the link! That is an excellent price.
                                Any idea about followers?

                                As I'm a hoarder, we are good with ammo and mags. Spare springs, followers, basic repair kits and etc.

                                Going Strong: Black Friday Week NICS Checks Surpasses 680,000
                                https://www.personaldefenseworld.com...y-nics-checks/

                                OTOH, the article doesn't factor denials nor does it include CCW permits as no NICS is required. I mean with all the violence in the streets what else would "they" expect.

                                Wow, no wonder there's an ammo shortage.

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