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  • #46
    Originally posted by RICHFL View Post
    Here is the latest (no news) my daughter who is a teacher told me several schools will close due to increased c-19. No news about it. Then I asked her what is the count by school? She has no idea. The school board decided that those facts need to be restricted? the parents and teachers have no idea!

    so no news reporting and parents are not being kept up to date!
    And here, I thought the school board was accountable to the parents?

    I belong to a Veteran's Forum and someone posted this:
    https://www.delawareohionews.com/nat...ated-veterans/

    IMO, denying Veteran's healthcare is over the top and it doesn't matter if you are a vaxxer or anti-vaxxer.

    OTOH:
    Nancy Pelosi stated: "The New York Times reported on Thursday that the executive order doesn't apply to those who work for Congress or the federal courts, citing White House officials.

    Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi said at a press conference on April 29 that the House couldn't require members to be vaccinated. Video clips of those remarks gained renewed attention online following Biden's announcement.

    "So—so here is the thing. We are—we cannot require someone to be vaccinated. That's just not what we can do. It is a matter of privacy to know who is or who isn't," Pelosi said."
    www.newsweek.com/members-congress-staff-exempt-biden-covid-vaccine-mandate-1627859

    Although Ms. Pelosi didn't give a reason why, the reason was our HIPPAA law.
    Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA)
    The Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA) is a federal law that required the creation of national standards to protect sensitive patient health information from being disclosed without the patient’s consent or knowledge. The US Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) issued the HIPAA Privacy Rule to implement the requirements of HIPAA. The HIPAA Security Rule protects a subset of information covered by the Privacy Rule.
    https://www.cdc.gov/phlp/publications/topic/hipaa.html
    Here in the US before social distancing, it was required by HIPPAA to maintain our privacy. As I've stated at this site I've been vaccinated and it's legal because it was my decision.

    As usual, laws only apply to some and not all.

    PS:
    There is another exempt group:
    Illegal aliens are exempt from the COVID shot requirements:
    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/psa...cid=uxbndlbing

    In the US,
    the executive order doesn't apply to those who work for Congress or the federal courts and illegal aliens...
    All I can say is go figure....




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    • #47
      Originally posted by Nik View Post
      As I understand it, the immunity you get from a Covid infection is 'narrower', more specific, than from the 'Western' vaccines, which were brewed to be more 'generic'. Against such expected mutations...
      You have that backward. The mRNA vaccine is specifically made to replicate only the spike protein of the virus. Natural immunity maps the entire virus' proteins and therefore provides a much broader and robust immunity. Studies from Israel are showing natural immunity to be 27 times more effective than the vaccine.


      Originally posted by Nik View Post
      But, the Covid variants are worse than hoped, with the 'Delta' more different and much nastier than extrapolated. And its spin-offs are likely to be even more infectious.
      Viruses mutate to lesser forms with each mutation. The Delta variant spreads easier because it utilizes a different cell pathway, but it is less deadly.

      Study: COVID recovery gave Israelis longer-lasting Delta defense than vaccines | The Times of Israel
      If it was man made it can be man re-made.

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      • #48
        IIRC, the UK is finding prior infection gives poor immunity against new variants, as too 'narrow'. Needs a vaccination to 'update'. And boosters against new strains that lack enough commonality with earlier...

        Also, some viruses gradually mutate to lesser forms, because their more virulent forms kill their carriers before sufficient transmission. But, zoonotic Covid is still a 'young' virus in its new victims, us, so virulent strains may run riot without meeting that limit....

        IIRC, 90+% of current Covid hospitalisations and deaths are of the un-vaccinated.
        In some areas, 95+%.
        Such odds make Vegas slots look generous...

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        • #49
          Here's a summary of the issues over antibodies from prior Covid infection. As I understand it, there's a factor of thousand response between 'Yay !' through 'So-So' to 'Hmmm...'

          https://arstechnica.com/science/2021...covid-19-shot/

          But vaccination brings them all up to speed...

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          • #50
            Well said, Mangler!!


            In the US, however, public health officials are unequivocal in their approach: people are categorized as either vaccinated or unvaccinated, regardless of prior infection. It's an approach with many strengths, including robust scientific data supporting vaccination for people who have recovered. That data—which we'll get into below—has consistently shown that immune responses from natural infections are extremely variable, thus unreliable. Vaccines, on the other hand, have repeatedly been proven to generate highly protective immune responses
            https://arstechnica.com/science/2021...covid-19-shot/


            Who Is Eligible for a COVID-19 Vaccine Booster Shot?
            Updated Oct. 7, 2021

            What You Need to Know
            COVID-19 Vaccine booster shots are available for the following Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine recipients who completed their initial series at least 6 months ago and are:

            65 years and older
            Age 18+ who live in long-term care settings
            Age 18+ who have underlying medical conditions
            Age 18+ who work in high-risk settings
            Age 18+ who live in high-risk settings
            https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...ster-shot.html

            It is obvious Arstechnica missed the CDC stating only Pfizer BioNTech vaccine currently requires a booster. To be fair, perhaps Beth Mole the author of the Arstechnica article didn't read CDC's article? However, just who is Beth Mole?

            How effective is the Moderna vaccine against COVID Delta?

            Moderna's COVID-19 vaccine proves effective against multiple SARS-CoV-2 variants, including delta
            Katia Bruxvoort and colleagues report that the vaccine efficacy against infection with delta was moderately lower than against non-delta variants, at 86.7% versus 90.4 to 98.4%. However, the efficacy against hospitalization following delta infection was as high as 97.6%.

            Bruxvoort and colleagues also warn that efficacy against delta infection declined with increasing time since vaccination and that further research is required to inform booster dose strategies.
            https://www.news-medical.net/news/20...ing-delta.aspx

            As the last thing anyone would want is politicians or the news media making vital decisions during a pandemic this raised my neck hairs:

            Report: Top FDA vaccine regulators quit over COVID booster shot approval
            Senior FDA regulators quit, reportedly over pressure from White House, CDC to quickly approve COVID booster shots.

            Two top vaccine regulators at the US Food and Drug Administration announced their resignations from the agency, an FDA spokesperson said Tuesday night.

            According to a letter shared by the FDA with CNBC, Marion Gruber, the director of the FDA’s Office of Vaccines Research & Review, has resigned from the agency, effective next month.

            Deputy director Phil Krause has also quit the agency, effective in November.

            According to a report by the biotechnology publication Endpoints News, Gruber and Krause resigned in protest of pressure they faced from the White House and the Centers for Disease Control in connection to approval for use of COVID vaccines.

            In particular, the two were frustrated over pressure to clear the use of COVID booster shots, Endpoints News reported, citing a former senior FDA official.

            “FDA is losing two giants who helped bring us many safe and effective vaccines over decades of public service,” former FDA acting chief scientist Luciana Borio tweeted.

            “These two are the leaders for Biologic (vaccine) review in the US. They have a great team, but these two are the true leaders of CBER. A huge global loss if they both leave,” Former BARDA director Rick Bright wrote, weighing in on the news. “Dr. Gruber is much more than the Director. She is a global leader. Visionary mastermind behind global clinical regulatory science for flu, Ebola, Mers, Zika, Sars-cov-2, many others.”

            The departures come after the Biden administration announced that booster shots could be available as early as the week of September 20th, despite the FDA not having yet completed its review of the use of COVID boosters.
            https://www.israelnationalnews.com/N...ws.aspx/312850

            This is from the Israel National News; however, a search will reveal many other sites reporting the same thing.







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            • #51
              I've never understood why people start prepping in the first place if they trust the government and media!? It makes no sense to me...

              CDC stated last year that only 6% of all deaths labeled covid were actually caused by a coronavirus...the other 94% of deaths were actually caused by underlying health issues...yet everyone still lines up!

              Pfizer has already stated recently that they are killing more people than they are saving....but everyone still lines up.

              Did you know that there are millions or people exempt from taking the jab and they include: Federal candidates and constituents, Pfizer employees, Moderna employees, J&j employees, chinese students, homeless people and immigrants....but you believe it is about a virus and not about depopulation?? Have you even asked what ingredients are in it?

              So the covid death numbers have are so much higher this September than last? That makes no sense if the masks and social distancing work....what has changed since then to cause an astronomical amount of deaths since then? ....OH YA....they released their miracle "potion"....which has caused more deaths since December than ALL VACCINES IN HISTORY ADDED UP ALL TOGETHER!! WAKE UP PEOPLE!! You are leading yourselves to the slaughterhouse!

              ROLE OF NANOPARTICLES
              https://nihrecord.nih.gov/2020/09/04...icles-vaccines

              NASAL VACCINE
              https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19121350/

              NANOBOT
              https://phys.org/news/2020-01-bot-be...HnJ4cts3I0WJCh dntRsQEDI4E7eBryOfm99DTsg7LD2MSakA-I

              WHAT'S IN THE TEST
              https://stateofthenation.co/?p=51670...79wg3HBA3kXOSH Aioheg6ukq45KfpVfhm4JxtWF8s

              HOW RNA VACCINES WORK
              https://archive.org/details/dr-louis...d-RNA-vaccines

              https://youtube.com/watch?v=7DlcRSvuvnw&feature=share

              https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...lPpZHnKf_qHi6Y

              mRNA VACCINES
              https://www.bitchute.com/video/hwVAlBZOQu7N/

              REWRITING GENETIC CODE OF CANCER
              https://youtu.be/AHB2bLILAvM

              RNA AND DNA
              https://phys.org/news/2020-01-rna-ef...87ESNNMhf8iNt0

              SOFTWARE OF LIFE
              https://healthimpactnews.com/2021/the-new-mrna-covid-vaccines-inject-an-operating-system-into-your-body-not-a-conspiracy-theory-moderna-admits-it/?fbclid=IwAR1lCq-OyyR2i3MuRgi_oXsfuVWKARUmlyF2DCqH-g3qR43jQy2LqLsEXX8

              https://humansarefree.com/2021/01/moderna-mrna-jabs-operating-system-program-humans.html

              https://m.beforeitsnews.com/u-s-politics/2021/03/bombshell-moderna-chief-medical-officer-admits-mrna-alters-dna-2581991.html

              NOT A VACCINE
              https://m.beforeitsnews.com/eu/2021/02/people-dont-take-the-covid-vaccine-2668233.html

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              • #52
                Sorry, DE, your 'sources' are so often so wrong about so much, they're hilarious and scary in equal measure...

                Also see: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Poe%27s_Law

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Nik View Post
                  Sorry, DE, your 'sources' are so often so wrong about so much, they're hilarious and scary in equal measure...

                  Also see: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Poe%27s_Law
                  Nik:
                  Poe's Law was an outstanding selection.
                  Without a clear indication of the author's intent, it is difficult or impossible to tell the difference between an expression of sincere extremism and a parody of extremism.

                  Kudos!!

                  DE,
                  You're sources are, well to be nice, let's say lacking. Read this thread and you'll see Nix and I often disagree. He is a pro-vaxxer and although I am vaccinated, I am pro-choice. As the pro-abortion women say "It's my body" and the SCOTUS agreed. However, COVID vaccinations are the mandated exception. Although, I am vaccinated I strongly disagree with mandated exceptions.

                  Basically, if you choose not to be vaccinated, I support you as it is your body. By the same respect, if you die from COVID because you weren't vaccinated, it was your choice. If you weren't vaccinated and never catch COVID. The short form, we live by our choices or die by them. Make your choice and live or die by it either way, it was your choice.
                  OTOH, don't feed me your bull malarkey, tin foil hat baloney. Might ask, are we clear?






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                  • #54
                    You can both see the tests doctors have done on full immune reports from before vaxx, after first and after second showing people now being immune deficient....look at the pre excerpts from New England Journal of Medicine prior to December 2020 showing their research of the vaxx shedding...you may not agree with some sources, but when they are sharing the studies put out from the exact people feeding you the toxins, will you listen then?

                    This is to invoke research and critical thinking. You will not believe something when told...only when you search it out yourself and are ready to learn.

                    Knowing that the aborted fetuses are being sold on the black market from the medical clinics...would you still promote it or help share the truth?

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                    • #55
                      The articles I read have hypertext links to the source article. That way, one can read the whole article not just partial snippets from the quoted source.

                      Do you know the case definition for COVID deaths?
                      “The case definition is very simplistic,” Dr. Ngozi Ezike, director of Illinois Department of Public Health, explains. “It means, at the time of death, it was a COVID positive diagnosis. That means, that if you were in hospice and had already been given a few weeks to live, and then you also were found to have COVID, that would be counted as a COVID death. It means, technically even if you died of clear alternative cause, but you had COVID at the same time, it’s still listed as a COVID death.”
                      I have a link, but I figured YouTube would be better, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljpHugKNcoI

                      Vaxx shedding is when a vaccinated person broadcasts COVID to the unvaccinated.

                      Will your next claim be COVID vaccines cause infertility in woman?
                      https://www.reuters.com/investigates...cines-skeptic/

                      As the discussion is about COVID; just what did the sale of aborted fetuses have to do with COVID. What that meant to me was you are trying to change the subject.

                      Yes, I have done research from reputable sources and profited from what I learned.


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