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  • #46
    Originally posted by RICHFL View Post
    Here is the latest (no news) my daughter who is a teacher told me several schools will close due to increased c-19. No news about it. Then I asked her what is the count by school? She has no idea. The school board decided that those facts need to be restricted? the parents and teachers have no idea!

    so no news reporting and parents are not being kept up to date!
    And here, I thought the school board was accountable to the parents?

    I belong to a Veteran's Forum and someone posted this:
    President Joe Biden has ordered the Department of Veterans Affairs to withhold healthcare benefits from unvaccinated veterans as part of an aggressive new initiative to combat the COVID-19 pandemic. Beginning November 1, any veteran seeking medical care at a VA facility must have had at least one shot of the vaccine to receive services under […]

    IMO, denying Veteran's healthcare is over the top and it doesn't matter if you are a vaxxer or anti-vaxxer.

    Nancy Pelosi stated: "The New York Times reported on Thursday that the executive order doesn't apply to those who work for Congress or the federal courts, citing White House officials.

    Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi said at a press conference on April 29 that the House couldn't require members to be vaccinated. Video clips of those remarks gained renewed attention online following Biden's announcement.

    "So—so here is the thing. We are—we cannot require someone to be vaccinated. That's just not what we can do. It is a matter of privacy to know who is or who isn't," Pelosi said."

    Although Ms. Pelosi didn't give a reason why, the reason was our HIPPAA law.
    Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA)
    The Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA) is a federal law that required the creation of national standards to protect sensitive patient health information from being disclosed without the patient’s consent or knowledge. The US Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) issued the HIPAA Privacy Rule to implement the requirements of HIPAA. The HIPAA Security Rule protects a subset of information covered by the Privacy Rule.
    HIPAA is a federal law that requires the creation of national standards to protect sensitive patient health information from being disclosed.

    Here in the US before social distancing, it was required by HIPPAA to maintain our privacy. As I've stated at this site I've been vaccinated and it's legal because it was my decision.

    As usual, laws only apply to some and not all.

    There is another exempt group:
    Illegal aliens are exempt from the COVID shot requirements:

    In the US,
    the executive order doesn't apply to those who work for Congress or the federal courts and illegal aliens...
    All I can say is go figure....


    • #47
      Originally posted by Nik View Post
      As I understand it, the immunity you get from a Covid infection is 'narrower', more specific, than from the 'Western' vaccines, which were brewed to be more 'generic'. Against such expected mutations...
      You have that backward. The mRNA vaccine is specifically made to replicate only the spike protein of the virus. Natural immunity maps the entire virus' proteins and therefore provides a much broader and robust immunity. Studies from Israel are showing natural immunity to be 27 times more effective than the vaccine.

      Originally posted by Nik View Post
      But, the Covid variants are worse than hoped, with the 'Delta' more different and much nastier than extrapolated. And its spin-offs are likely to be even more infectious.
      Viruses mutate to lesser forms with each mutation. The Delta variant spreads easier because it utilizes a different cell pathway, but it is less deadly.

      Study: COVID recovery gave Israelis longer-lasting Delta defense than vaccines | The Times of Israel
      If it was man made it can be man re-made.


      • #48
        IIRC, the UK is finding prior infection gives poor immunity against new variants, as too 'narrow'. Needs a vaccination to 'update'. And boosters against new strains that lack enough commonality with earlier...

        Also, some viruses gradually mutate to lesser forms, because their more virulent forms kill their carriers before sufficient transmission. But, zoonotic Covid is still a 'young' virus in its new victims, us, so virulent strains may run riot without meeting that limit....

        IIRC, 90+% of current Covid hospitalisations and deaths are of the un-vaccinated.
        In some areas, 95+%.
        Such odds make Vegas slots look generous...


        • #49
          Here's a summary of the issues over antibodies from prior Covid infection. As I understand it, there's a factor of thousand response between 'Yay !' through 'So-So' to 'Hmmm...'

          But vaccination brings them all up to speed...


          • #50
            Well said, Mangler!!

            In the US, however, public health officials are unequivocal in their approach: people are categorized as either vaccinated or unvaccinated, regardless of prior infection. It's an approach with many strengths, including robust scientific data supporting vaccination for people who have recovered. That data—which we'll get into below—has consistently shown that immune responses from natural infections are extremely variable, thus unreliable. Vaccines, on the other hand, have repeatedly been proven to generate highly protective immune responses

            Who Is Eligible for a COVID-19 Vaccine Booster Shot?
            Updated Oct. 7, 2021

            What You Need to Know
            COVID-19 Vaccine booster shots are available for the following Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine recipients who completed their initial series at least 6 months ago and are:

            65 years and older
            Age 18+ who live in long-term care settings
            Age 18+ who have underlying medical conditions
            Age 18+ who work in high-risk settings
            Age 18+ who live in high-risk settings

            It is obvious Arstechnica missed the CDC stating only Pfizer BioNTech vaccine currently requires a booster. To be fair, perhaps Beth Mole the author of the Arstechnica article didn't read CDC's article? However, just who is Beth Mole?

            How effective is the Moderna vaccine against COVID Delta?

            Moderna's COVID-19 vaccine proves effective against multiple SARS-CoV-2 variants, including delta
            Katia Bruxvoort and colleagues report that the vaccine efficacy against infection with delta was moderately lower than against non-delta variants, at 86.7% versus 90.4 to 98.4%. However, the efficacy against hospitalization following delta infection was as high as 97.6%.

            Bruxvoort and colleagues also warn that efficacy against delta infection declined with increasing time since vaccination and that further research is required to inform booster dose strategies.
            Researchers in the United States have demonstrated the real-world effectiveness of Moderna’s mRNA-1273 vaccine at protecting against infection with severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) and preventing hospitalization due to coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19).

            As the last thing anyone would want is politicians or the news media making vital decisions during a pandemic this raised my neck hairs:

            Report: Top FDA vaccine regulators quit over COVID booster shot approval
            Senior FDA regulators quit, reportedly over pressure from White House, CDC to quickly approve COVID booster shots.

            Two top vaccine regulators at the US Food and Drug Administration announced their resignations from the agency, an FDA spokesperson said Tuesday night.

            According to a letter shared by the FDA with CNBC, Marion Gruber, the director of the FDA’s Office of Vaccines Research & Review, has resigned from the agency, effective next month.

            Deputy director Phil Krause has also quit the agency, effective in November.

            According to a report by the biotechnology publication Endpoints News, Gruber and Krause resigned in protest of pressure they faced from the White House and the Centers for Disease Control in connection to approval for use of COVID vaccines.

            In particular, the two were frustrated over pressure to clear the use of COVID booster shots, Endpoints News reported, citing a former senior FDA official.

            “FDA is losing two giants who helped bring us many safe and effective vaccines over decades of public service,” former FDA acting chief scientist Luciana Borio tweeted.

            “These two are the leaders for Biologic (vaccine) review in the US. They have a great team, but these two are the true leaders of CBER. A huge global loss if they both leave,” Former BARDA director Rick Bright wrote, weighing in on the news. “Dr. Gruber is much more than the Director. She is a global leader. Visionary mastermind behind global clinical regulatory science for flu, Ebola, Mers, Zika, Sars-cov-2, many others.”

            The departures come after the Biden administration announced that booster shots could be available as early as the week of September 20th, despite the FDA not having yet completed its review of the use of COVID boosters.
            Senior FDA regulators quit, reportedly over pressure from White House, CDC to quickly approve COVID booster shots.

            This is from the Israel National News; however, a search will reveal many other sites reporting the same thing.


            • #51
              I've never understood why people start prepping in the first place if they trust the government and media!? It makes no sense to me...

              CDC stated last year that only 6% of all deaths labeled covid were actually caused by a coronavirus...the other 94% of deaths were actually caused by underlying health issues...yet everyone still lines up!

              Pfizer has already stated recently that they are killing more people than they are saving....but everyone still lines up.

              Did you know that there are millions or people exempt from taking the jab and they include: Federal candidates and constituents, Pfizer employees, Moderna employees, J&j employees, chinese students, homeless people and immigrants....but you believe it is about a virus and not about depopulation?? Have you even asked what ingredients are in it?

              So the covid death numbers have are so much higher this September than last? That makes no sense if the masks and social distancing work....what has changed since then to cause an astronomical amount of deaths since then? ....OH YA....they released their miracle "potion"....which has caused more deaths since December than ALL VACCINES IN HISTORY ADDED UP ALL TOGETHER!! WAKE UP PEOPLE!! You are leading yourselves to the slaughterhouse!

              If and when effective vaccines for Covid-19 are developed, some will surely rely on a nanoparticle delivery system whose origins lie in decades of painstaking groundwork. Offering a tour of that effort was Dr. Dan Anderson of MIT.

              NASAL VACCINE
              The great interest in mucosal vaccine delivery arises from the fact that mucosal surfaces represent the major site of entry for many pathogens. Among other mucosal sites, nasal delivery is especially attractive for immunization, as the nasal epithelium is characterized by relatively high permeabilit …


              WHAT'S IN THE TEST


              The first COVID-19 vaccines represent an incredible record-breaking achievement in vaccine development. Not only were the Moderna and Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine...

              mRNA VACCINES


              RNA AND DNA
              An article titled "m6A RNA modification as a new player in R-loop regulation," by the Dynamic Gene Regulation research group led by Arne Klungland at IMB, was published in the January edition of Nature Genetics.

              SOFTWARE OF LIFE



              NOT A VACCINE


              • #52
                Sorry, DE, your 'sources' are so often so wrong about so much, they're hilarious and scary in equal measure...

                Also see:


                • #53
                  Originally posted by Nik View Post
                  Sorry, DE, your 'sources' are so often so wrong about so much, they're hilarious and scary in equal measure...

                  Also see:
                  Poe's Law was an outstanding selection.
                  Without a clear indication of the author's intent, it is difficult or impossible to tell the difference between an expression of sincere extremism and a parody of extremism.


                  You're sources are, well to be nice, let's say lacking. Read this thread and you'll see Nix and I often disagree. He is a pro-vaxxer and although I am vaccinated, I am pro-choice. As the pro-abortion women say "It's my body" and the SCOTUS agreed. However, COVID vaccinations are the mandated exception. Although, I am vaccinated I strongly disagree with mandated exceptions.

                  Basically, if you choose not to be vaccinated, I support you as it is your body. By the same respect, if you die from COVID because you weren't vaccinated, it was your choice. If you weren't vaccinated and never catch COVID. The short form, we live by our choices or die by them. Make your choice and live or die by it either way, it was your choice.
                  OTOH, don't feed me your bull malarkey, tin foil hat baloney. Might ask, are we clear?


                  • #54
                    You can both see the tests doctors have done on full immune reports from before vaxx, after first and after second showing people now being immune deficient....look at the pre excerpts from New England Journal of Medicine prior to December 2020 showing their research of the vaxx may not agree with some sources, but when they are sharing the studies put out from the exact people feeding you the toxins, will you listen then?

                    This is to invoke research and critical thinking. You will not believe something when told...only when you search it out yourself and are ready to learn.

                    Knowing that the aborted fetuses are being sold on the black market from the medical clinics...would you still promote it or help share the truth?


                    • #55
                      The articles I read have hypertext links to the source article. That way, one can read the whole article not just partial snippets from the quoted source.

                      Do you know the case definition for COVID deaths?
                      “The case definition is very simplistic,” Dr. Ngozi Ezike, director of Illinois Department of Public Health, explains. “It means, at the time of death, it was a COVID positive diagnosis. That means, that if you were in hospice and had already been given a few weeks to live, and then you also were found to have COVID, that would be counted as a COVID death. It means, technically even if you died of clear alternative cause, but you had COVID at the same time, it’s still listed as a COVID death.”
                      I have a link, but I figured YouTube would be better,

                      Vaxx shedding is when a vaccinated person broadcasts COVID to the unvaccinated.

                      Will your next claim be COVID vaccines cause infertility in woman?

                      As the discussion is about COVID; just what did the sale of aborted fetuses have to do with COVID. What that meant to me was you are trying to change the subject.

                      Yes, I have done research from reputable sources and profited from what I learned.


                      • #56
                        2 items came up today

                        Pfizer statement said that it's booster shot will restore your anti bodies up to 96.25%. 10/21/21

                        National institute of health (NIH) released a statement that they did contract with the Wuhan China labs to study various vivid viruses. 10/21/21


                        • #57
                          Hello! Good to be here. I will NOT try to sell my stuff without permission of the site owner.

                          Thanks again.
                          Last edited by Buggyout; 11-12-2021, 01:57 PM.


                          • #58
                            Originally posted by RICHFL View Post
                            2 items came up today

                            Pfizer statement said that it's booster shot will restore your anti bodies up to 96.25%. 10/21/21

                            National institute of health (NIH) released a statement that they did contract with the Wuhan China labs to study various vivid viruses. 10/21/21
                            The vaccine gave my daughter a heart condition.


                            • #59

                              The vaccine gave my daughter a heart condition.
                              Sorry to hear that. The sad thing is it's messing a lot of people up, a lot more than they are letting on. Be it people developing anaphylaxis, clots, heart conditions, strokes and more...

                     There used to be a lot more data here but it appears that as word of this resource got out it's gotten a 'cleaning'
                              I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you!


                              • #60
                                Thank you.

                                I've done a lot of digging and you are absolutely correct. However, do not dare to disagree with the pro-vaxxers, the believers everyone needs to be vaccinated to make them safe. Gee whiz, I thought being vaccinated made you, me or them safe..
                                Of course, hide anything that dares disagree with being vaccinated.

                                Of course, cleanse anything that dares disagree with the mandate. Even if it is one's child?

                                QP statistically shortens the timing of molecular test conversion from positive to negative, reducing at the same time symptoms severity and negative predictors of COVID-19.

                                QP is a safe agent and in combination with standard care, when used in early stage of viral infection, could aid in improving the early symptoms and help in preventing the severity of COVID-19 disease. It is suggested that a double-blind, placebo-controlled study should be urgently carried out to co …

                                Look at the urls, same as yours, they are recognized authorities and dare disagree with the being needled mandate. Gosh, how dare NCBI, NLM, NIH etc. dare disagree?

                                The truth is out there, turn off your TV and do a search.