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  • #31
    Keep watching Australia because they (the Government) have gone off their rockers. Military now patrol the streets, people being arrested for being outside in their yards, farmers closed down, etc. This has been going on since last week and will continue till mid September! Talk about over reach!!!!

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    • #32
      Originally posted by RICHFL View Post
      Keep watching Australia because they (the Government) have gone off their rockers. Military now patrol the streets, people being arrested for being outside in their yards, farmers closed down, etc. This has been going on since last week and will continue till mid September! Talk about over reach!!!!
      Rich,
      IMO, all in the name of COVID, just about every government has gone off their rockers. Over reach is also taking control. The question is why? Closing down farms means less food, again why.

      I'm not into conspiracy theories, I do better with facts. However, there is no reason for an undeclared version of martial law for COVID.

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      • #33
        They need to herd people like cattle under orders from their handlers.

        Here in America one thing is becoming abundantly clear....to people who can think and act on their own....not herded...

        And that is ....our standards/requirements for President of the United States are no where near as high as many of us have been lead or mislead to believe that they are.

        We have been gaslighted severely not by one but by both of the major political parties.


        I believe Australia is a pilot program for other nations.....in the world class herding of the cattle which is coming....


        We as Americans are to be made Subjects...and not citizens with rights ...as is the case in New Zealand, Australia, England and in their own way in Europe...subjects with privileges granted by the government...the sovereign.

        America and our system of beliefs is an anathema to these internationalist Ishmaelite Herders.


        What you are looking at in Australia, New Zealand and other such nations is what happens when Ishmaelites rule.....secretly ...privily ..without most even being aware of what is going on.

        The ;problem with this kind of power historically ..is...that when the emergency is over....these Ishmaelites are very loath to give the power back to the people....

        Be warned the Ishmaelites run wild..


        My non Ishmaelite .02,
        Orangetom

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        • #34
          Although, we do the right things; my wife believes this is more about control than anything else.

          Does anyone know Australia's plans for supplying people with food or refilling their needed prescriptions? Has 911 been canceled? I'd bet no one has considered the results of their actions as usual.

          The CDC stated no unvaccinated people are allowed to enter the US. Meanwhile, our government has opened the borders for illegals..

          The debt clock is $27.7 trillion and they want a $3.5 trillion dollar budget.. Each of us owes $86,000.
          https://usdebtclock.org

          We have agendas, not leaders.






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          • #35
            The CDC posted today, that every one no matter the vaccine; will need a booster every 6 months!

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            • #36
              CDC is simply admitting COVID will continue to change because it was designed to do it.

              As our borders are open again letting unvaccinated people enter which CDC said should not be allowed.

              Edit: How could CDC possibly know we'll need a booster every year and what booster?
              With flu vaccinations, each year a new vaccine comes out based on the predicted strain or strains.

              As COVID continues to change how will they accurately predict the next strain? If they could why didn't they predict any of COVID's previous new strains?
              Once a new strain surfaces, the big pharmas would need to fast track a booster.
              Last edited by Tugaloo; 08-31-2021, 08:34 PM.

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              • #37
                "...COVID will continue to change because it was designed to do it."

                No, no, thrice no. Bacteria, viruses, parasites etc etc naturally mutate. Some are faster than others. Some are scary-fast.
                Any new zoonotic, such as Covid, is inherently 'fast & furious'. Less adapted strains are soon crowded out by better adapted strains.

                Covid-Delta has mutated such it can mostly side-step most immunity from earlier variants. If you had Covid six months ago, with or without serious symptoms, and have not subsequently been vaccinated, you'll have scant immunity to Delta...

                If you have been vaccinated, especially if you were an 'early up-taker' due health or caution, that declining immunity now needs a top-up,

                Worse, Delta seems twice as infectious and much nastier than earlier versions. Think 'Mk IV Evo, now with twin-turbo and active ride'...

                Upside, vaccination or prior infection may not keep you out of hospital, but does seem able to keep you out of ICU. Also, vaccination halves risk and severity of 'Long Covid' after-effects...

                Remember, in a beset hospital's triage zone, if you have been vaccinated that counts in your favour. You'll need far fewer resources than anti-vaxxer on next gurney, are more likely to recover and leave sooner, freeing bed...

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                • #38
                  According to a study posted in New England journal of medicine. The morderian has 50% more a covid-19 antibodies then phisfer. Excuse spelling

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                  • #39
                    Yes, we've had a mid case of COVID and yes, we've had the booster shot. As we are vaccinated, why are the anti-vaxxers my concern as they are risking their own health, not yours or mine? As it was their choice and the vaccine is supposed to protect us; well, they aren't worth the time.

                    "However, RaTG13 was sampled from a different province of China (Yunnan) to where COVID-19 first appeared and the level of genome sequence divergence between SARS-CoV-2 and RaTG13 is equivalent to an average of 50 years (and at least 20 years) of evolutionary change."
                    It is interesting that the average is 50 years or at least 20 years. Influenza changes year to year; however, each mutation is a different "strain." COVID's mutations are from the same base, but somewhat different with a highly unusual rapid mutational differences. N'est-ce pas?

                    The problem is they haven't figured it out, yet. The current belief is interaction with animals provided COVID a higher rate of mutation than the usual expectations.
                    Is Yunnan intended to remove the focus from Wuhan?

                    As "genome sequence divergence" is well above my pay grade, this link offers an explanation.
                    https://sandwalk.blogspot.com/2017/1...nce-using.html The point, COVID mutated faster than the usual.





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                    • #40
                      Johnson & Johnson stated today that a booster shot will increase your protection to 94%. Pfizer has given test results from a study of vaccine effects on kids age 5-12. Expect the FD A to vote this week. Other vaccines to submit their studies within a week.

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                      • #41
                        There are two schools of thought on the vaccination(s). Some embrace them and others hate them. We are both vaccinated and had the booster. As I've said numerous times; if someone chooses not to be vaccinated, don't cry if they catch it. People who been vaccinated fall into a different category.
                        Big Pharma offers a lot of promises; however, the Gibraltar experience is interesting.
                        https://www.europereloaded.com/gibra...ough-the-roof/
                        https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/gibra...schabinsky-msc

                        There is no need to believe my links as a search for Gibraltar, vaccinations and COVID or variations will provide lots of hits.

                        I did find some interesting information.
                        https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safet...ntion-covid-19
                        https://www.uchealth.org/treatments-...ody-treatment/


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                        • #42
                          Tugaloo,

                          I'm not into conspiracy theories, I do better with facts. However, there is no reason for an undeclared version of martial law for COVID.
                          Agree.



                          Although, we do the right things; my wife believes this is more about control than anything else.
                          Verily agree with your wife here.. Power can be a very addictive drug to many.


                          As our borders are open again letting unvaccinated people enter which CDC said should not be allowed.
                          Agree again.....madness...pure Ishmaelite run wild..


                          Orangetom
                          Not an Ishmaelite



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                          • #43
                            This is interesting:
                            Fauci Defends NIH Funding Wuhan Lab: ‘Only Regret’ Is That It’s Caused ‘Such a Degree of Distraction’

                            "Garrett then asked, “Real quickly, no regrets about those grants?”

                            Fauci responded, “Well, the only regret is that what it has caused right now is such a degree of distraction [from] trying to do what we really should be doing, is addressing the outbreak, and what we did, and did quite successfully, was to develop vaccines that have now been life-saving. That’s what the job of myself and my team and my institute is, and, thankfully, we did that very successfully.”"
                            https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2021...f-distraction/

                            I would have thought his only regret would have been all those families who lost loved ones to COVID.

                            “Sen. Paul, I have never lied before the Congress and I do not retract that statement. This paper that you were referring to was judged by qualified staff up and down the chain as not being gain 0f function — let me finish!” he said as Paul interjected.

                            “You take an animal virus and you increase this transmissibility to humans, you’re saying that’s not gain of function?” Paul asked.

                            “Yeah, that is correct, and Sen. Paul, you do not know what you are talking about, quite frankly. And I want to say that officially. You do not know what you are talking about,” he said as Paul interjected again.
                            https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...e-to-congress/

                            “This is your definition that you guys wrote. It says that scientific research that increases the transmissibility among animals is gain of function. They took animal viruses that only occur in animals and they increase their transmissibility to humans. How you can say that is not gain of function?” Paul asked.

                            “It is not,” Fauci said as Paul continued.



                            “It’s a dance, and you’re dancing around this because you’re trying to obscure responsibility for four million people dying around the world from a pandemic,” Paul added.

                            In May, Fauci admitted the NIH funded the Wuhan lab but continued to deny gain of function research, defining it as “taking a virus that could infect humans and making it either more transmissible and/or pathogenic for humans.”

                            “That categorically was not done,” Fauci claimed.
                            The Chinese version is somewhat different.
                            There was gain of function research going on with Dr. Shi Zhengli at the Wuhan Institute.

                            In her paper, she actually thanked Dr. Fauci and National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), which is a part of National Institutes of Health (NIH) that Dr. Fauci runs.

                            It’s listed at the end of the paper. This paper was fined by NIAID research, and it lists a ten-digit number that identifies the research money she got from the United States. Was it gain of function?

                            Well, it took a SARS virus, which is a coronavirus, that’s 15 times more deadly than COVID, and it added to it S protein, which is something in the surface of it, to make it more easily infectious to epithelial cells for the respiratory tract. That, to me, is gain of function.

                            https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...e-to-congress/

                            So, all the research at Wuhan did or did not lead to a gain of function or the virus being communicated to humans. Perhaps Dr. Fauci and Dr. Shi Zhengli ought to have a sit down to get their stories straight.

                            It appears the American taxpayer paid for Wuhan's research on COVID.

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                            • #44
                              https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...e-to-congress/

                              So, all the research at Wuhan did or did not lead to a gain of function or the virus being communicated to humans. Perhaps Dr. Fauci and Dr. Shi Zhengli ought to have a sit down to get their stories straight.

                              It appears the American taxpayer paid for Wuhan's research on COVID.

                              Ishmaelites run wild..

                              Orangetom

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                              • #45
                                Here is the latest (no news) my daughter who is a teacher told me several schools will close due to increased c-19. No news about it. Then I asked her what is the count by school? She has no idea. The school board decided that those facts need to be restricted? the parents and teachers have no idea!

                                so no news reporting and parents are not being kept up to date!

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