wyoming

[Morguns1Cam]

Ive never been there (WY) but its on my list of places I want to visit. WY has the lowest population density of any state I believe. Not sure I could handle the winters . but other than that it would be a great place to be I believe.

[Niki09]

well I will have to check into the schools.. anything else shadow?


i like that wy has a dense population... thats half the appeal. Plus owning land

[shadowwalker]

I would strongly suggest to anyone moving here to get a good idea of where you want to live and rent for a year. Out here we don't get real good service from the wyoming department of transportation and the county,city road services when it comes to cleaning off the secondary and rural roads. After a snow storm they get right on the primary and main highways. But some of the outer rural roads and non essential roads won't see one for days or weeks if then. The wind blows here and a road can be blown back shut,impassible in twenty minutes. One that took the snow plow maybe two hours or more to clear. Or on the interstate a highway can blow shut behind the snow plow. I have lived here over 35 years and drove over 1,000,000 miles in oilfield pickups here and all over the western united states.
Most of the eastern and middle areas of wyoming have a fine clay for ground formation here. It can rain as little as 1/2 inch. And your road to your house is impassible. It's like driving on grease. And being clay will set with water until the sun evaporates it. Even with the gnarlyest tires with chains on you can't get anywhere's. I have been back in someplace huntin,fishin,prospecting etc. And not watched the weather and got caught.
So that is another thing that will affect you. Second is water. Here in spots it is not drinkable no matter how far you drill. So you will be hauling it. I did this as a kid growing up and until you have to do this. You can only imagine the lifestyle change this will have on a family. Next is some spots have wells there that to get to water some wells are over 600 feet. Now the drilling costs are incredible. And if you need to work on the pump or change it. You can't pull that much plasitc pipe so you have that future cost. I changed out the pump by myself in Tennessee. I had a well 198 feet deep, I physically pulled the thing out. It really worked a ole fatboy.
I have did alittle checking and I guess the schools here are on the upper end of education and lower end on crime and physical harm to students. The state spends above average per capita on a childs education. You can prepay you child for the university a laramie. Like pay this years tuition and when they go say, in 15 years. And the price of education is alot higher. It's already paid for. That sounds like a good deal to me.
My wife and I are looking for a place now. We see alot of good deals, some are alittle too good. The last one was a ideal picture of a home. What I didn't like was the only road was winding through two bottoms to get out. There wasn't anyplace to make a new one with out buying or renting equipment to do it or paying for it done. After you asked the neighbor for a parital easement down his property line..
Believe it or not,wyoming still has working one room school houses here. Most have like less than 20 kids there K through Jr High. Way out in the sticks. Alot of home schooling goes on here too.

[barkingowl]

I would strongly suggest to anyone moving here to get a good idea of where you want to live and rent for a year. Out here we don't get real good service from the Wyoming department of transportation and the county,city road services when it comes to cleaning off the secondary and rural roads. After a snow storm they get right on the primary and main highways. But some of the outer rural roads and non essential roads won't see one for days or weeks if then.

In that respect you're a lot like Charlotte. Has anyone thought about starting up a wind farm out there?

[shadowwalker]

Oh, yes they are many big companies are getting into it. And all the legal spitting,snorting,dirt clod throwing, whining, crying that goes with it!
Right now just outside of town is a guy suing because his view of the mountain will be disrupted with them up and he dosn't want to have to hear the "hum" they'll make when on. Some of the bunny huggers are now bat huggers. They say the bats fly into them and want something done about it. Theres a ad that will show up in the newspaper every few days. It says they will do a assesment of windyness on your land and give you a offer of leasing it for putting up their turbines, ha,ha. I wish I still had some land for that!!

[barkingowl]

Sorry to hear that no one seems to be able to just do what needs to be done without some BS assessment by folks who don't understand living there.

[Niki09]

thank you shadow I appreciate all your advice and knowledge!

[brightstar]

If I may suggest, Wyoming is beautiful I have been there, but think about Yellowstone ok. With what is coming being within 200 miles of Yellowstone is not a real good idea and I have talked with this forum own and asked whether he thought I should post about something I feel I have learned about and he said to go ahead so I will start posting on that before long, but please consider this volcano existing in Yellowstone as it is a major major one ok.


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[brightstar]

oops my fingers missed some keys, the forum owner!!!


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[brightstar]

Hi,

With the way the public schools have been infiltrated with all of this liberal BS, I would suggest homeschooling for sure. That way you know where your kids are and not being messed with in their minds by all of this liberal crap.

I have seen the difference with 3 granddaughters in public schools that have been messed up badly from all the influences there versus 2 grandsons who my daughter-in-law homeschools. Major major differences indeed.

The public schools are getting worse all the time, the dumbing down of America has been working for far too long now and if one wants their children to have a decent education, then you better home school them for sure.



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[subman]

hey shadowalker i am thinking about TN for an early retirement out in the rural areas what do you think? I would like to find about 50 acres and set up a little self sufficient farm

[shadowwalker]

Subman, TN is a good place to live. I just couldn't take the area I squatted down in. And to dam hot! Check out east N.E.
TN or S.E. KY. There are just the spots your probably wanting. I'd guess, not as hot, land is fairly cheap if you look for it. Good growing season. I'd look on every site on the internet about it. Land in Ky is cheap especially around the Daniel Boone forest area. And around northeast TN it depends on where you are. But land can be found there. A very good rule of thumb I found. Look at the land for flatness and check out what kind of trees are growing. If you see trees growing that like lots of water go for it, if you see trees that are more like arid area trees, you probably don't have water there or its deep. Next problem you might have is the locals. If they hunted and their "daddy and daddies daddy hunted" on your new bought land. Your going to have to show them it's not available anymore. I had this problem for four years, sometimes I had to ask the same people to please leave over and over. And above all, don't count on the law in the rural areas 100%. They will side with friends and family faster than when baby chicks run to a hen when a hawk screams.
But that is what makes that part of the country unique.
Totally great place to grow almost anything, and if you do it right a second season for alot of it. Always some place to sell your stuff. I built a produce shed at one of my roads and sold alot of things. My fruit and nut trees were really doing good when we sold the place, and I had a grape harbor 60 feet long with 11 different kinds of grapes giving me over 3 five gallon buckets full the last year. And they were mostly three year plants!
The whitetail deer meat is second only to elk for me out there. Hunting is good. If you not depended on public lands, but in the eastern parts of the states there is more public lands too. Oh, and both have elk there now.
Taxes arent to bad out there and you can qualify for alot of rural grants and low cost loans now. I am finding out they are available all over the U.S. now.
If I ever wanted to live there again I'd look at these spots first.

[cthulhufan]

I spent several years of my childhood in Rock Springs Wyoming before we moved to Colorado (Dacono, Firestone, Frederick (Longmont area)). I have fond memories of Wyoming. We lived way out past the city limits though. Small community where my dad broke horses when he wasn't laying floor covering or covering for a sick school bus driver (mom too!). We had a general store and everything :)

Yes, the wind never seemed to die. The country is beautiful, though, and most folks were squarely planted in reality.

My family currently has plans to move to the Pine Haven area, quite a bit north of where we were previously, but with the economy in shambles, I'm not sure we can swing that anytime soon.

Good luck to you, OP, I hope you make it up there. I'm saying this because I also spent several years of my life in Colorado and I know how it sucks in comparison. :)

Wyoming is a wonderful state.

Edit: Oh, and someone was saying something about the volcano. IMO, you just can't get away from that stuff, if your ticket is punched, your ticket is punched. Tsunamis if you live on the coast, fault lines and tornados if you live in the midwest, bears and wolves if you live in the great north... Live your life and enjoy it for what it is, you can't escape nature.