Wanted : 12 gauge or M1 garand

[hazenoff]

Greetings all, this is my first post here, and I would like to say hello to all.

I am currently looking for a good clean 12 gauge shot gun and / or a solid 30-06 or M1 garand . I would prefer a pump action with the 12 gauge. I am looking at the 12 gauge for a home defense / self defense weapon, and the 30-06 or M1 as a primary hunting rifle. Right now, with the economic situation the way it is, I would of course like to help you guys out, by taking one of your extra's off your hands, but I would also like to say some cash on the guns myself.

[Big_Saw]

Greetings all, this is my first post here, and I would like to say hello to all.

I am currently looking for a good clean 12 gauge shot gun and / or a solid 30-06 or M1 garand . I would prefer a pump action with the 12 gauge. I am looking at the 12 gauge for a home defense / self defense weapon, and the 30-06 or M1 as a primary hunting rifle. Right now, with the economic situation the way it is, I would of course like to help you guys out, by taking one of your extra's off your hands, but I would also like to say some cash on the guns myself.

Nice to know what you're into, but you really should post in the introductions forum before you head out and go shopping ;)

[snal]

Greetings all, this is my first post here, and I would like to say hello to all.

I am currently looking for a good clean 12 gauge shot gun and / or a solid 30-06 or M1 garand . I would prefer a pump action with the 12 gauge. I am looking at the 12 gauge for a home defense / self defense weapon, and the 30-06 or M1 as a primary hunting rifle. Right now, with the economic situation the way it is, I would of course like to help you guys out, by taking one of your extra's off your hands, but I would also like to say some cash on the guns myself.

There's one of each listed on this site currently. Great folks to deal with too! All members are nc/sc folks.

https://www.carolinashootersforum.com

[75_stingray]

Whoa, wouldn't we all love to have a few M1's?

[David M.]

I owned a Garand, it gave me a new meaning of respect for the men who carried those rifles into battle! They are not light. It's a great rifle, very accurate, but for me just wasn't practical in the woods. Peep sights are tough in low light situations, and Garands aren't the easiest weapons to mount optics on. Mine was a new Springfield in .308

[hazenoff]

Hey David,
I know that the Garand is a hefty weapon, and has it's flaws, just like any other military grade weapon of years ago. I was looking at the Garand, because of the accuracy and stopping power ballistically. If I wanted something lightweight and automatic, I would look at the new composite AR-15 clones, or exotic shooting systems. I simply chose the Garand because of it's field tested reliability, accuracy, stopping power, and long track record of dependability. If I was in the woods, in a very bad situation, I would choose a weapon that had a long history of reliability and accuracy, over an exotic weapon system that although beautiful and lightweight, might be very hard to work on in the field, have very expensive parts, and just might have some major manufacturing flaws that would make it a beautiful hunk of junk that hung on my wall, but was nearly worthless in the field.

[Rustyshakelford]

Hey David,
I know that the Garand is a hefty weapon, and has it's flaws, just like any other military grade weapon of years ago. I was looking at the Garand, because of the accuracy and stopping power ballistically. If I wanted something lightweight and automatic, I would look at the new composite AR-15 clones, or exotic shooting systems. I simply chose the Garand because of it's field tested reliability, accuracy, stopping power, and long track record of dependability. If I was in the woods, in a very bad situation, I would choose a weapon that had a long history of reliability and accuracy, over an exotic weapon system that although beautiful and lightweight, might be very hard to work on in the field, have very expensive parts, and just might have some major manufacturing flaws that would make it a beautiful hunk of junk that hung on my wall, but was nearly worthless in the field.

While not the sledge hammer of the Garand, if you are looking for time tested field reliability, get the AK. But I am somewhat predjudiced in favor of them.

[David M.]

I appreciate your input. I'm a fan of the AR, I hunt with a M4 profile in 6.5 Grendel. You can't buy the rounds @ WalMart, but I have a few saved up.....Anyway, good luck on your purchase. You know you're gonna spend some loot on a M1, and instead of buying one that's put together with parts from a dozen weapons, why not buy a new one?

[hazenoff]

The AK's are a wonderful weapon, and I have owned a few in my time. The only thing I hate is that, when I bought mine, ages ago, the only extended clips available for them, where these cheap, plastic things. Me and cheap plastic don't really mesh to well. The AK's I have seen on a few of the sites, do seem to be a much better buy, than the Garand, so I may go ahead and get one, and save up for the Garand for the memories I had of one ages ago. That and the fact that a very nice AK is about 1/3 of what the Garand's are going for... more than enough in a bad economy to change my mind.

[David M.]

I've got a rifle that is very accurate, low maint. and fires the .308. It's a CETME. They like most imports have good one and bad ones, but mines a good one. No gas system whatsoever, has rollers on the bolt. It's the grandaddy to the HK91. Some parts interchange but it is a tad heavy compared to others. Prices runs about half of a Garand, a little more than some AK's. ($600.00 range)

[Red]

Greetings all, this is my first post here, and I would like to say hello to all.

I am currently looking for a good clean 12 gauge shot gun and / or a solid 30-06 or M1 garand . I would prefer a pump action with the 12 gauge. I am looking at the 12 gauge for a home defense / self defense weapon, and the 30-06 or M1 as a primary hunting rifle. Right now, with the economic situation the way it is, I would of course like to help you guys out, by taking one of your extra's off your hands, but I would also like to say some cash on the guns myself.

just my two cents on the Garand et al... if and when SHTF I would love to have a Garand type rifle as a primary. That's why i choose the M1A ... it's basically an M1 with a box magazine. And the .308 (7.62x51) is very close ballistically to the 30-06 (7.62x54). I'm not knocking any of the others rifles folks have suggested here... hell I have some of each of them... except for the 6.8 Grendel... I will look into that one, but probably not add it to the safe due to the care and feeding issue. As for a hunting rifle... if you go with and M1A... do not...DO NOT... please DO NOT use a SOCOM 16 I did ... and while it works well... this is the loudest [email protected]#$%! [email protected]#*^! I have ever touched off that close to my head! It hurt... it truly hurt to fire with no hearing protection on. I will never do it again! just a bit of info from the Great White NorthEast!

Rick in NH

[hazenoff]

Thanks

Thanks for all the help guys,

Picked a AK-47, due to the availability of ammo, magazines, and the reliability as Rusty pointed out. The fact that the ammo was lacquered and bulk packed, as well as fairly low priced, were all factors I took into consideration. The AR-15 related weapons systems were nearly twice the price I paid for the AK, and the ammo was marginally more expensive...

Also looking at getting an AR-15, because of the glut of ammo, the fact it's a US military cartridge and the proven reliability. More than likely will get a system using a 12 inch barrel if available... found reports that reliability was effected if the barrel was less than 10.5 inches. This will be on the Birthday wish list...

For now, an AK-47 with 8 magazines, sling, 2000 rnds of Ammo... should do me for a while.